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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Flex always has PVP on the brain.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What a bummer that was. I rarely ever subscribed but that magazine needed to go on forever. I blame the Wii U.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The PC Gamer article won't make or break anything. Miracles can be done, but it's going to take a complete shift in how they perceive Kickstarter to work.
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    EQ Never

    Lots of good choices, just don't go dino, hunchback or row 3 column 4 and we're good. Surprisingly well done Iksar.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Shadow Knights have been tweet-confirmed so Ceythos gets his evil tank.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Guys the game's name is EverQuest. I love the shit out of it and its name now but just sit and analyze that for a second.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Join us. Also, here's an example of anewly launched Kickstarterfor La-Mulana 2 that looks fantastic. I haven't dug too deep into what all it offers, but initial impressions tell me that this is well put together.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    They have classes, races and Q&A videos they're trickling out. We keep getting random concept art drops, too. The tiers are another monster altogether and the visual aids (charts, stretch goal graphics, fonts, etc.) are worth more attention than they've been given.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No, I want Pantheon bad. Too bad, probably. When Brad first started tweeting vague references to an old school MMO I was ready to pounce on it the first time he actually confirmed he was making something (and this thread was born). Any respect my wife has left for me she's going to lose if...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    There's a disconnect between the way the crew at Visionary Realms has developed in the past and how they should be developing in their current state. It's not about dangling the carrot, it's about stuffing everyone's face so full of steak they rack up a bill they'll be crying about for months.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Feel like I've been double duped.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Pro-tip: Miracle patches are long promised, rarely delivered.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I feel like I'm already hearing the "I wouldn't want to play with someone likethatanyways" argument pop-up too much, particularly about anyone judging the dungeon screenshot. What an awful logic to have, particularly when you need every bit of help you can get to fund this game. Edit: Not the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I told you not to buy the Nabi.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Basically what I was implying. Has to be the case.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So, two of the three $10K backers backed out. I feel like when you make a $10,000 decision you think about it for a while before committing and know you're game.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Only the chart indicates it doesn't come with a copy. It looks like a chart error.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It's the start of a new week and the clarity should go a ways in getting more people on board. While it sucks my poor rangers got bumped, I'm more concerned that the $800,000 gets met. Once it's there, I'm confident over the course of the next few years some of those goals could easily make it...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah, they redid a lot of it. Ranger got bumped back, but all classes were pulled to the front.Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen by Visionary Realms, Inc. Kickstarter Edit: Also, the chart says Explorer's pledge doesn't grant a copy of the game, but that conflicts with what the tier has said all...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yep. Here's to hoping if even a few of them have to split, Brad pursues this dream. Also worth nothing, the Visionary Realms Kickstarter icon is now the Aradune screenshot Brad uses here, haha.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The one question I've asked but I'm almost certain won't be answered until after February 22: If the Kickstarter doesn't get funded, will the Visionary Realms team push on? This is one of the last remaining hopes I have for caring about MMOs and should the KS go south, I don't want to feel like...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Ikik explained their current UGC philosophy onPJP(sorry, not trying to promote it but we've actually had some decent dev quotes). "The current plan for UGC servers works like this. Any player will be able to run their own server that we'll host. They'll pay a monthly fee to have the server up...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Basically. I think I'm a bit different from the norm here in that I can go years with playing an MMO and not care but the moment one has my interest I get totally absorbed in it. That hasn't really done me any favors in recent history but it's an all new gaming world and things like Kickstarter...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'd never shun honest criticism. Obviously you can file the whole thing under "fan site" but I'll never be able to turn off my critical nature nor would I want other people to feel like they can't express themselves. I know Amaru agrees. It's fine for people to cheerlead, but people should...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Amaru did a nice job fixing the really bad launch it had. The forums have way more activity than I anticipated; it's really been a good experience so far and the developers haven't been too shy with posting (gotta get Aradune to register one of these days though). Not getting funded might take...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Khane, he followed up with this: "Yes I certainly understand the wariness of putting in the KS page as I was hesitant. But there have been comments about people not seeing any work done so this was just to show that we are trying to put things together and not just scam people."
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Dungeon creator posted on the screenshot atProject Pantheon: "Hey guys, The screen shot is basically me playing around in Unity trying to figure out the best way to do dungeons with caverns in them. Most likely it will all change. As for old Guk, the tool we used back then to create hallways...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If this game happens, PVP happens. Pantheon isn't getting made without 90 percent of the stretch goal built in, or that's my prediction anyways. It's all going to come from additional funding, but the $800,000 basically lets this project live on while they create and try to impress.
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    EQN:Landmark Beta Starts March 26th!

    That's why EQNL will never have the Minecraft success they're dreaming of. Well, one of the reasons. That's not a bash in any regard, but Minecraft can run on a calculator. Landmark's popularity will be hindered because it requires more than a calculator to run it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Comment from Machail onProject Pantheon: "Just the beginning! Lore week starts tomorrow, and there's tons planned. Really can't wait. Just a few more hours before some real goodies on Nexus coming up. We're going to tell you a bit about who she is, and put some of the pre-kickstarter tweets...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I don't actively dislike EQ2 like a lot of people. I basically missed out on it in its entirety because a few things pissed me off enough to go back to EQ1, but I do regret not playing shit like Rise of Kunark at launch (I ran through it many, many years after the fact).
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yep. Ease off the keyboard and think about it before hitting submit. That needs to be the motto for this entire campaign.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    How many of these guys can afford to hang around for a few months without a job hoping that their second round goes better?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Man, it's just a shame because I'm not sure who is pushing some of this through. Who's making the final call on what gets updated and who said "you know what, these tiers are great" and the follow up "these tiers fix everything." That map shows a couple of alternative paths which is nicer than a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So once it's added nothing can be done? All the more reason to get it right the first time. Tears from tiers. Everything from here needs to be a carefully orchestrated plan of attack. I fully believe Pantheon can be funded, but it needs to be done with a precise round of attacks to keep new...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Forget the combat document, I think I need a tier document. The better way to tackle tiers would have been to take the time and get the correct fixes in place the first time instead of Frankensteining it together. I think the way it's all presented is confusing and the default answer is going to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Kickstarter intervened when people got screwy with the Ouya games crap. There's infohereand a lot more elsewhere. My guess is that despite a limited audience, there are some really passionate people who want Pantheon to succeed. Also, some of those passionate people have way more money to blow...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Brad asked me to contact a mod to unlock his account. I think I'm clear on my history.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If you're referring to Brad, he's the one who came here. No begging was involved.