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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Don't hurt my heart like that!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    We need some clarityon this, Brad. "More open world, with quests and stuff to do, but you don't have to do them all." No overkill please and how does this impact loot bloat?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I was making a statement, not commenting on any financials. It's the pits.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    MMORPG.com has a dreadful community.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Minimum of three years development time, long beta.Twitter / Aradune: @The_Irontail minimum 3 years ...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You can probably add Ikik to the team, too. I didn't realize that was him inthis picture. Or if it's not him, it's his doppelganger.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Basically. This game's mission statement is to be a focused experience on a smaller budget which also means a smaller development time. Anything crazy like a 5-year development time would mean really bad things for it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Will be Project Pantheon (for now the address is pjpantheon.com). Nothing is up yet, but will be soon.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Fan site isn't me, but a friend of mine and I'm helping out with it. It's one of the dudes I did a few podcasts with on EQN before SOE Live. He's a really good guy and before this was even a thing he wanted an MMO to kick him in the teeth. It seems a pretty nice fit in theory. He's aware of how...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I want EQ style questing, for clarity. No symbols over the head or anything. If I get some money I want it to be pocket change that offends me more than anything. Item rewards could be handed out if the line was exhaustive enough to reward the effort.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I've got money on it that Pantheon alone wasn't available. Also, Rise of the Fallen is the perfect metaphor. Also, agree about the loot Lithose. I don't need a shiny, fancy-named weapon for every quest I complete.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Extremely well said, Brad.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm banking on Fallen, but Fippy would be so good.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Also, is the game set to be calledPanthefon: RotF? Concept art image and all of the people known on the team following it (and me).
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    An idea that worked withNeoGAFfor Project Eternity was creating an account and lumping some money together to get an in-game Inn which was one of the higher end tiers. It was a donate what you want, if you want thing and they actually rallied enough support to raise enough money. I forget how...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Glad to see it finally worked. Welcome Brad!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Brad still can't post, shooting another message off to Draegan. Look, just give me mod rights and I can assist.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    To rephrase it because "dream" is the wrong choice of words, there were a lot of hopes (myself included, so I'm not just attacking people) that Brad's SOE connections would be used as tech leverage within SOE. There was definitely the odd "maybe he'll get unused EQ3 assets" and I personally had...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Using vaporware as a term is so vague and up for interpretation. I think it's funny that people are making assumptions about the team based on a few names I pulled from a hat. The truth is you're going to find very few people willing to leave one risky job for an even riskier job unless they're...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    There's really good and really bad. Let's hope Brad's team leans on the good side of things!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Rochard is a pretty damn good game, too. Here's a recent release on Xbox One:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'd give you an Internet Fedor but that got taken away. I've been looking up Unity games (and playing some I own) to get a better understand of what it can do. It's isometric, but Obsidian uses it for Pillars of Eternity and it looks fantastic. My confidence in the engine rose after...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I wouldn't trust that guy on GAF, seems shady.
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    The Elder Scrolls Online

    I'm good with rocking Samus. Edit: You didn't just take $60 and multiply it by units sold, right?
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    The Elder Scrolls Online

    It won't happen. It's going to get ugly post launch.
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    The Elder Scrolls Online

    Yeah, I'm calling BS on that one. They need millions of box sales and a retention rate that doesn't abandon the game in a month. This is going to be a bomb of epic proportions and no IP is going to save it. Zenimax is going to have fun recovering from this.
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    The Elder Scrolls Online

    Superannuation has been a known industry insider for many years. More to the point and what's sad is that I don't find this surprising at all. Edit: Also lol @ my icon. That got changed without doing anything on my end but it is what I use on most forums.
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    The Elder Scrolls Online

    The negativity is rampant. This experiment won't end well.
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    The Elder Scrolls Online

    So, costs are surpassing$200 million.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think the entire MMO industry has a history of over-promising (and continues to do so) which builds up unrealistic expectations in people's heads. I get where you're coming from, but I hope the nature of this game's development leans toward talkingandshowing on a regular basis. What I assume...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm confident good questions will be fielded so long as it's time to talk about them. I only lurked back in the Curt days and there definitely was some level of sucking up there, but the worst part was he had nothing to show for it. Brad is going to have an early demo of the new game and the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Account approved. Hopefully he pokes his head in here soon enough.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm fairly certain he's well-versed with this thread's inhabitants and he's intimately familiar with the past. There's a lot of people here with valid questions and many have damn sure complained about no developers coming to chat on the Rerolled forums (often opting for a sub Reddit). Well...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Brad's having an issue with his account but he's registered and ready to post here. Hopefully we can get it cleared up and he can start getting involved in this thread soon.
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    No Man's Sky

    Ugh, sucks. Have they confirmed no backups? Either way they're about to be in a financial shit storm.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    In the process of one-upping a second set of email questions from me. Waiting on Draegan to check his inbox.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm not even going to pretend to understand how long that would take or what level of expertise would be needed, but Unity driven demos get tossed together quick and that's what everyone should be expecting. I don't know if Unity is strictly for the pitch or to give a rough idea of what to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No slobbing going on, there's just no cause for concern based on my list. There's a lore guy, a pr guy, a freelance coder and an art guy that have actively talked about the game.