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There are alot of suggestions for changes both based personal opinions like the above and more general reasons - Can they do that, change the kickstarter goals, pledges and stuff around mid-campaign? If so, to what degree? I'm just asking because it sounds generally exploitable, without implying...

You say that like it's better /sigh

I'm definitely in, but I have to say the Kickstarter could've used more polish (or time to create stuff for it). Maybe I'm wrong there but it doesnt look too enticing if I were on the fence about this to start with. Edit: no mention of a sub so far. Also wondering if I can pledge $45 (minimum...

You mean 8 like Everquest right? Mind your audience when talking

They should have a digital version of every physical tier that's just a bit cheaper. Edit: I think one of the ways to haul in the money is to allow upgrades and changes even after the initial campaign, SC made bank that way even if you overlook their USS Walletraper special sales.

If they are following the LoL model of releasing more classes regularly, their setup is very solid as described (keep in mind it's all on napkins for another year). With magic you could argue what makes sense all day because *magic*, but for a warrior type it makes sense that your weapon...

God Draegan one could think this is your first day. In a fantasy game you sell *dragons*. Just ask Dumar about spaceships and witness the scream you can hear on the moon.

Given the wide range of expectations here it's a given that some are gonna be more or less dissapointed. The real question is will the people that find the project to be "not for them" leave the thread or go into bitter-troll mode?

Here's a technical aspect I would like to bring up, maybe it triggers a less hostile discussion: Do we want a worldwide accessible server list (early EQ or obviously EVE), or hard seperation per region (WoW)? Being in Europe, I still prefer it when servers are not designated for a specific...

Pets and trinkets and shit fall right into the same category as clickies. Massive farming time sinks for something that's not a simple +gooder. We want those, right? And those things dont need to be everywhere all the time right at release, but we have nothing to go on here for relevant...

I think (assuming a large enough world to have different races/cultures) such festivals should be limited to specific races or communities in most cases. The elves celebrating a summer solstice doesnt mean the dorfs give a damn, maybe they are extra grumpy at best. It's extra off-putting if...

One way would be the follower system that Neverwinter or TOR have. But that essentially makes everyone a pet class. Neverwinter then gives you a choice of pets that arent really creatures but a floating stone that provides a specific passive advantage. Considering that, you could have an item...

Holidays are fine but make an effort to be part of the world. Solstice, days of the dead and so on are good if they have a twist that fits the region/culture they are placed in. They blow if they have santas and so on. I do have to say I did like the darkmoon faire idea, a traveling circus could...

I know the WoW hate is strong here but I have to say, I really loved the hunter class early on. You had ranged and melee options (melee alot weaker but instead of killing that slowly they could have pushed it), you had a cool variety and content simply through taming, the pet performed...

I'm cool with a copypasta of the EQ enc, actually that would probably be an ideal situation for me. One thing I would ask is some consistency on how the class is treated throughout expansions though, Having your class abilities disabled (besides buff bitch) in large stretches of several...

The thing is that assuming the make a game balanced on PVE, from 10 classes 7 will suck bigtime compared the other 3 right out of the box, so you start putting some limits on high number hits/crits, then the next problem becomes CC and after some deliberation you put in a resist mod for spells...

Fuck difficult at first, that implies easy later on. It should *always* be difficult so it's *always* better for me and Joe_necro that solos next door to team up while we're in the same area doing the same shit. You know, encourage people to seek out other people to play with and stuff. That...

There's no hint at a monk or SK or necromancer class existing in Pantheon, and if they do exist it's a coin flip if anything like pretending to be dead in an attempt to single out a mob will be part of their repertoire. Dont see this as a crusade againt FD please. So with this out of the way...

I have to say, notsureifserious.gif When I made my enchanter to start on a fresh server I intentionally and knowingly picked a deity and put all points in cha (which at the time was against common opinion). Technically a character creation mistake. It mattered fuck-all for the next 4 years...

The point was that once you have your questions and set up roles to answer them, you can make more then one class that answers one of those questions. You do not need to add a new question just because you add a new class. Someone might want to play a CC class, but historically the CC classes...

I think you should ask those questions *before* blowing $200+ ... although I might eat that comment in a few days. My February gaming budget is gonna land on Pantheon or this here pretty soon.

Could have FD on hunters, it's been done before! But different mobs reacting in different ways to FD would be a fine tuning point, because it's dev discretion at any step of the way. As Enchanter half your spellbook was switching back and forth between overpowered, obselete, or intentionally...

I suppose as long as all roles they want in their game are defined, extra classes that fill those roles differently and possibly have a different set of the generally available utilities are no big deal. It's not like Berserkers (up until I quit) brought anything really new to the table, and...

I would laugh my ass off if they could make a pure debuff/CC role rogue with mediocre damage. The tears would be enough to grow a jungle in the Sahara.

Come on Tad who doesnt own a rift these days? You also still using that nokia just because it'll never ever break before the sun explodes?

Repeated from 50 pages ago, but just do away with pure dps classes. Give each class access to at least one role (tank/heal/cc/suuport) and give each class the ability to dps. Then let the player decide in which direction he wants to develop his character. No respecs (refund if you nerf shit).

That gave me a good early morning chuckle, thanks! I'm not against FD at all but I guess the notion is that it really is some guy playing dead - there's nothing implying any jedi type background going on with the ability. As such it's kinda unbelievable. Who knows, maybe they can design FD or...

Still no mention of this being an RPG... I hope they have some decent lore for their game, as silly as it sounds that's actually important to me. Oh and dorfs. If I cant make a dorf all bets are off.

I wouldnt mind bind npcs at local inns or class guilds. Again, in limited locations and not at every small tent camp you come across (I dont even want those tent camps but thats another story). I think many of the initial additions of WoW are okay, they just overdid it, especially in the last...

Interesting, tell me more. Now where did I leave my torch and pitchfork...

Eh, half the posters are already clamoring for buying 3h KEI instead of actually grouping an enchanter, same cat different color.

Diablo had it right: Warrior, rogue, mage is all you need, the rest is fluff (Screw D&D with their 4th pillar cleric stuff). Where do we stand on prestige classes that you open through gameplay? Too close to EQN? Too much like AD&D? Or could be something to look into?

Lol where is Dan?! Who of you did that?

I like limited slots, it means your knowledge of the class and the dungeon you head i to matter. Of course tbe abilities have to be different and meaningful, not just dpsbutton a, b and c. Heres a rundown of decisions I made before even stepping into most dungeons, depending on zone and...

I guess they expect Q1 and Q2 shareholder reports to look good enough from RoS and Hearthstone alone, overshooting the goal just makes the next quarter look worse. At least thats the line of thought I expect from them these days.

You are right, that is a denial of service. Light the Butlersignal Commissoner!

You are absolutely right, and there are many games that are ideal for it or even made for just that. In MMOs its usually a tacked-on mediocre or worse addition, even if they held PvP up as one of their main goals (WAR, GW2). I prefer #3 being in the background without getting too involved and...

Runnyeye, Blackburrow, SolB, and more from EQ, Blackrock, Uldaman and maybe some more from WoW. It's not that new. Still a good idea though.

Meh, you can let priests do that if your roster doesnt have necromancers, wouldnt be out of place.

Do bags like WoW(EQ) and have a box to check off for showing all slots in one bag frame? I loved the bag mini-game, I am hoping for variety of specialty bags with more slots that only hold specific things. I agree it's not normal but in modern MMOs you take what motivation you find.