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There are already int-stacking Winter Orb - CWC - Whispering Ice builds, so I guess. HoWA still seems better.

CoC in general is unchanged. Frost Nova slight damage nerf, Frostbol(which doesn't do most of your damage anyway) a slight buff. Go for it.

Remember Shroud of the Lightless? The buff's ICD could be MUCH longer than the buff itself.

That's part of the fun! Everything 3 months, tons of new shit you don't know about. That's part of the reason why people are forgiving of the questionable choices this patch.

Atziri's Foible helps. Otherwise, lots of stat stacking. HoWA build can get over 1500 int.

Mjolner 2.0, except even less fun to build around.

That area of the tree has been known as the triangle of death. It's quite gay to path through there. So, they changed the tree this patch and it's still gay to path through, it's just a chevron instead of a triangle. GGG seemingly knee-jerked reacted and made the area even worse for some...

Yes. Make sure you also check the "attached to target" box in configuration. The questionable choices continue. i r dum, can't get embed to work.

How's that?

Correct, only hits can leech.

That being said, I am excited to try some new stuff this patch. None of it is melee or even attack based, so maybe they're succeeding! Soulrend/bane ED/contagion Some build with Convocation, probably HoAg Spork Maybe EK?

And now the Slayer(and Tombfist!) nerfs make more sense. Some very questionable changes this patch.

Used to be, I don't think so anymore. Mirage Archer helped a lot.

I'm looking for being able to quickly bounce back from taking a big hit. I don't want to depend on flasks as they have limited usages.

Let's say you're too bad to dodge.

Ok, anything a bit more generic? Let's say I'm starting EB-MoM Trickster with Bane for clearing, Soulrend for single target. How do I sustain life on bosses?

How do DoT-based builds usually get sustain in single target situations?

I don't think anyone's not talking about it, just not a great idea to start the league. If you're in the north part the tree, most build should eventually transition from life or hybrid to LL or CI. Way too much EHP to pass up.

You'll miss out on the nice life recovery from Patient Reaper. Occultist honestly seem a better fit for CI and Trickster Hybrid. But, unless you're really planning to push a character, either could do either.

I guess, sure. Play brands then though, if "damage while dodging" is important.

How would ED contagion be better for bossing?

4L Bane for clearing, 6L soulrend for single target. They synergize with each other quite well too.

20/20 gems are out. Forum - Announcements - Synthesis Gem Information - Path of Exile Bane might be good? It's at old ED levels. Rare/unique part of temp chains ignores the gem's quality, so... that's great.

PP nerf makes more sense now.

That's a good overall build guide, I would suggest everyone read that if consider HoAg. Just keep in mind it doesn't touch on CI or LL versions of the build.

Quill Rain is nice for HoAg, not a required. End game eventually shifts off it anyway. Also, should be cheap to buy one. Who uses those anymore? If I was leveling a classic bow character, I'd switch to Tempest ASAP.

I gave this a bit more thought. Gladiator might be tankier, obviously so on bosses, but melee. EE has a guide on that if you're interested, and you'd have to play molten strike again.

Forum - Witch - [3.5] A CI/LL Tri-Curse Herald of Agony Occultist [Deathless Uber Elder, League Starter] - Path of Exile That's the cookie cutter, not updated yet, but should be enough. HoAg itself has not been directly touched. Indirect buff via Convocation(I wouldn't even play the build...

Toxic Rain might work, but the build typically uses Rain of Arrows. Toxic Rain is going to have trouble maintaining Virulence, I would imagine. That aside, I pondered the same question last night since the buffs to Trickster look enticing. Tangent: I'm not sold on Ghost Shroud unless...

Man, noodleface is going to get a whole ton of not sex with his copious amounts of no free time.

I wonder, does the wording imply that the rare/unique scaling on Temp Chains only apply to gem level? I mean, I guess Enfeeble too, but Enfeeble doesn't get Less Damage from its quality. 80% less target in 3.5, level 20 gem, level 23 quality, level 4 enhance: 0.2 * (29.5 + (23 + 24) * 0.5) =...

I believe that part about crafting is just making the plinth group friendly.

How are you getting those numbers for Convocation? 4/(1 + 0.2) = 3.333s. 4/(1 + 0.2 + 0.5) = 2.352s.

Was considering HoAg Occultist, but the nerfs to Temp Chains and Enfeeble have me second guessing that. Maybe HoAg Trickster? Not really sure atm. Can someone explain how ED/Contagion is supposed to work? I've never played the skill and the wiki doesn't explicitly say Contagion is supposed...

Seriously, though, where does is say this shit in game? I can't even find a target limit mentioned on the wiki.

Targets that had 80% less curse effectiveness in 3.5 will now have 0.5 * 0.33333 = 16.6666% curse effectiveness in 3.6. Targets that had 60% less curse effectiveness in 3.5 will now have 0.5 * 0.66666 = 33.3333% curse effectiveness in 3.6. Targets that had 0% less curse effectiveness in 3.5...

4x crit multi jewel will get you as much, if not more. And just as rare!

For its rarity, that gem is fine. If anything it's overrated. Every build I've plugged it into has really only gained 5%-10%.

:rolleyes:

Even the patch notes are a grind, git gud noob. Nerfing PP after changing its rarity seems questionable. Why? Ok, reading notes now.