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True - I guess I can see that - and obviously I can see why law enforcement wouldn't suggest that variant as well since it would complicate their investigation into things and make it "messier" instead of cut and dry. Aha! That would explain it. I'd thought it was old per-capita quotes, but they...

That doesn't smell right - where you getting that list from? Supposedly Baltimore got out of the Top 10 the past few years [although just barely I think it was #11], had been riding high on #3-4th place and note DC had always been above it per capita as well, which is completely not on that...

Flawed in how it's applied or flawed in who it's written, the end result is the same. And IIRC the "defender" was the one who shot the girl in that case, and was minding his own business until he was shot at - doing some drug dealing which was split from the case. So under that, with a split...

Funny because that's absolutely not how the law works here - in the aftermath of the JHU issue they explicitly suggested provoking them to leave with a brandished weapon and not using it unless they presented aggression. I can't speak for the other dozen+ non-CD states, but they've actually got...

And in the comment you were responding to it was in response to SYG applying in cases like a drug dealer shootout was my personal context. Which is in commission of a felony, which does invalidate the part that references it - since it's BEEN APPLIED TO PROTECT THOSE IN COMMISION OF A FELONY IN...

You both need to keep up with the tangents - I wasn't talking about the Z trial in either quote.... there's a complete tangent going on here about Castle Doctrine and SYG in general. (Which FYI the former wouldn't have applied in this case at all - not even remotely - except for KY's apparently...

Shrug - although I'm not fond of the lack of castle doctrine here - I don't see the harm in pulling a weapon on them and NOT SHOOTING and then if they pull a weapon or charge, then shoot in self-defense. Intimidating them with a weapon to leave is still perfectly legal here.

That becomes self-defense/defense of life (or whatever the secondhand term is precisely I know I'm screwing it up) in the jurisdictions I'm familiar with. An overwhelming amount of property theft is non-violent and done by unarmed perpetrators.

If your life is threatened it becomes self-defense and is then legal - at least for MD - our issues come with an unarmed and unthreatening burglar, in those cases you're "required to retreat" across the house to call 911 and wait. B/E and Theft not Home Invasion.

To be fair, they acquitted him day one after almost no time - the prosecution didn't want to bring the case and the judge let it go to jury basically immediately. He didn't ever see prison time - they just required the case be heard in our structure here. (or since it's been a while it might...

Absolutely doesn't exist in Maryland - we had a case where a JHU student was REQUIRED BY LAW to be charged with manslaughter for accidentally killing a burglar at his residence. He took one sword strike and then called 911 for help - he did everything right for someplace that you're allowed to...

With the "not in the process of a felony" part it's already better than Florida's.... Heh.

Also keep in mind in the past 20 years there's been Food Stamp reforms that made it less of a loss to be married rather than file for every food stamp case separately - you still lose out a little now, but the dropoff is only like 20% now instead of the 50-60% it was during Bush Sr. era - so for...

His past is pretty public record and it wasn't the "privleged life, private schools" bit... and I personally took it to mean he could've been harassed by some idiot for no reason that could've taken a wrong turn, not that he would've had aggressive tendencies. Claiming similarity with the victim...

But who invented the Office Paperclip - that's really the one you want heading things - a talking paperclip, that was innovation.

It was a breitbart link - it's buried many pages back though.

Ah, ok I can see that being remotely fun once you mention the non-driving bits - almost like a.... non-violent (or is it! DRAG RACING BIG RIGS!!!!) Privateer you're making it sound like.

Nice for those that have an expensive one - but irrelevant to late day purchasers of a wimpy one since it's coming with a headset in the box too though.

Stillborn: Serious? That looks as fun as watching paint dry to me.

Most companies have an immediate DQ in hiring for those bringing a gun to an interview legally permitted or not.

I can guarantee if he didn't try to diffuse things with the 'maybe we'll find something they missed' angle you'd be bitching about the riots or whatever other reactions it helped temper.

Comparing military use to civilian use is a great example to use...

Where was the shot really fired at? All articles I'd read said UP not AT like some are saying here. AT would really put me on the fence about it since how do you distinguish a warning shot at from a miss?

Excuse me? Brush up on your reading comprehension dipshit because I never said anything remotely like that - I disputed details not the trial results. GZ was an idiot but not a criminal idiot.

As I stated, not besides people just using a different variant of GZ case race-baiting. It by itself is an interesting case however.

"Forced interest"? Not really - things that are inconsistent and have loopholes are frequently interesting on their own. Most people find odd tax breaks interesting, not because they're assholes - but because they're logically inconsistent. People in Maryland found it interesting that we...

You mean the woman that fired a warning shot to scare someone off into the air? I don't think that was Melissa Harris. But if that's the one that you're referencing it's interesting how narrow SYG is although completely irrelevant to the GZ case directly. (Although as mentioned before - the GZ...

Technically the PSN "hack" was during a transition between systems - it was just a small window of opportunity - not a long available backdoor. PSN from what is stated already has all their transitions already in place for PS4 - XBL on the other hand is stating their system is going through a...

Erhm? On your own timeline earlier I swore it had "They talked" then separated then Trayvon looped back? This is the first time I've heard someone quote that they DIDN'T talk once briefly then Traytray looped back. (including what I thought was past statements of your own) Not that it matters...

Unless it's applied very strangely in Maryland - I actually had to stand as a witness for a coworker who was charged with assault (and just assault - civil case) for running into an older woman carelessly while he was returning from lunch break late - that the woman absolutely threw a shitfit...

Z being justifiably worried and people understanding that worry is not the same thing as people saying that he was actually in high risk of death. Z legally could've wrongly thought he was going to risk death (and likely did think) acted and been completely wrong and it doesn't change the...

Depends on the style of physical "assault" technically - it's got to be something actually worrisome - and assault laws can include things like a light shove or bumping shoulders or other non-threatening stuff. So please don't just say "assault" - it has to be a REAL assault where there's some...

Exactly my take on it - if there really were worries of riots like mentioned a lot its exactly step 1 to defray them occurring.

Possible, I'd edit out the condemnation of abefroman if it wasn't already quoted - you're right that technically it was only about "visible wounds" - but check the most recent (and final) edit to that post - again thank you, I see why ya'll feel that way, and I'm on board with you now with his...

hodj: I was looking for a statement, video is very difficult to parse (well, more that it's not timely and requires higher attentiveness for a longer time... but you know what I mean...) - I was skipping videos intentionally for such reasons. (Although I didn't include forensic in my searches...

hodj: Thank you, watching it now starting at 40 min mark - definitely the right subsection hopefully it will answer it for me in a second. Weird that the audio is so mistimed though - but that's not a criticism of it, just a comment while stating I'm watching it. (and evidence of me watching it)...

I can recall at least two dozen discussions we've had technically - you're only remembering a small subsection. And in every case except Jackie (which coincided with a discussion we had on a visit a week or so earlier) - I've literally typed the statement from the person in question after...

hodj: I'm questioning what people are INTERPRETING OUT OF WHAT HE SAID - not the veracity of his statements, I did see the prosecutions ME when it was live and I do agree the guy didn't sound remotely confident and didn't give me confidence in his accuracy. I'm doubting PEOPLE ARE TAKING WHAT...

Note: For the record I seem to recall Jait giving me groans way back when about a relation I was going on about in chat on EQ2 - one of the first times someone criticized me for it. I really don't learn. It's been quite a while since then.

Not sure that if would happen in the respectable media outlets - how many times did you see that occur with the (obviously guilty) OJ? I can only recall tabloids and a few guests that expressed their opinion but weren't members of the program themselves. [But it has been a while, could be...