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Actually I'm pretty sure almost all the TLOs work and most of the major "core" plugins like eqbcs work as well, they just aren't part of the github repo for MQNext so you have to set them up yourself. When you install a Redguides VV build all of that is done for you--and eventually Next is going...

Oh and a fun little bit of drama--the MQ2IC plugin Mule has required all of his customers to run for the past 5 years, for awhile it was actually logging information like character name, account name etc of everyone who used it and was sending in game mails to GMs with that information. A lot of...

MQ2 use is a lot more common and non-controversial outside of truebox TLPs, albeit there are still people that hate that it exists. I'm not sure how many people care at all about the MQ2 inside baseball, but MQ2 has not actually been that easy to use on a Truebox server. It's been somewhat...

I mean it already works right now. It implements most plugins that Redguides VV ships with already, and most plugin authors are converting over as we speak. The base scripting stuff all works out of the box too.

One issue with EQ tryharding is there's often no real benefit to doing it. Especially in the context of a guild. I last raided in WoW during Legion up through the 3rd content patch, and even beating the raids on Heroic (the 2nd Tier difficulty) meant that most everyone in the raid needed to be...

The big thing Pantheon is going for as far as I can tell is literally the 1999 EQ standard--in which raids are just not a significant part of the game, and where "leveling" is the primary game play loop. That's why they're going to produce a hyper-tedious game to level up in that most people...

I mean I think anyone who has ever done a TLP launch has experienced this. I don't really know that there's ever been a "decayed" MMO that has ever approached its original glory. WoW with all its financial power has never come close to its 12m subscriber peak in like 2012 or whenever it was, and...

That's probably appealing to people who don't care to get to live (which is 99% of TLPers); for the few of us who stayed on Selo we'd have hated 8 week unlocks because it would make the entire time to live four years instead of 2.

Yeah there was more egregious cheating on early Selo than you've probably had since Fippy/Vulak. Some of it even not related to the faceless/amtrak drama direclty. Like you had Ricky/Toxn running some shit that let him spam an invis cast something like 50,000 / second which he used to lag out...

I like this Skuz guy's bold claim in the same thread

The feeling when FoH's yerm is called out by a dev for bullying:

I dunno that long down times are a problem per se; back when I was playing WeebFest (aka FFXIV), their major content patches which only come out a couple times a year routinely had advertised 24 hour down times. But Square pretty much always hit those down times, and sometimes brought servers up...

None of Selo's TLP rules are being dropped. So we won't lose Truebox or lose the +50% exp bonus, double rares, and half lockouts until the server merge with Povar. Which incidentally I suspect is because turning these things off isn't as simple as just flipping a flag (even though one of the...

Phinny guilds are probably better suited to live than FC just because Phinny is a much slower server where I think a lot of things are more "live like" already. The big factors that make live guilds competitive are: Ability to maintain a roster during extremely long "down times" after...

I think the thing a lot of people didn't understand is one of our major goals was to not have a "tattler culture" develop in the guild. It was much more important that we had a stable roster and that means no guild drama. In every guild I've been in, the people who run through logs and find out...

There was no vote fwiw, I didn't run the Selo guild as a democracy, no one was ever kicked from the guild unless I said they were kicked. Silinius did briefly kick Lumi in PoP but that was a spur of the moment thing and hadn't been discussed. I honestly do not remember us ever even having a...

We've heard stories about former Selo Faceless members causing drama on Aradune by bragging about "oh we killed x, y, z with no gear and did this and that" and we'll look into a little bit and it ends up being someone who was such a non-entity on Selo that I had to search the DKP site to...

On Agnarr we had like 70 people we were doing PoP progression with, we had a druid that had just finished his recruit status in Luclin who wasn't around until we got into EarthB, asked if he could come in as a piggy. We let him come in. Our first Rathe Councilman we brought in to mez, he...

I think the guild really hit its stride around the time you guys joined. Late DoDH the majority of what I'll call the "tourists" were bailing out of Selo (not just in Faceless, but in other guilds) so when Altered Minds and Amtrak merged into us (and we got a lot of Reversion players later in...

What's kinda funny to me is there are some later (much later) era EQ fights that have mechanics that seem all but designed with ShowEQ (or MQ2Map) usage in mind, and would be incredibly difficult for any guild that had 0 people using SEQ to complete.

Oh yeah, I agree w/that. People streamed all the major exploits you could do in DZ and OW live on Twitch in the last few years and none of the guilds/players involved got in any trouble. I don't really think they ban for players doing raids in an unintended way anymore, they will just...

This isn't right, old era EQ management was pretty ban happy on people for being "creative." It's not like today where they see a strat they don't like (e.q. spamming clickies to play threat games, pulling Emp out of his room etc) and just patch it out, in the '99-02 era they would do big...

Yeah, the issue you ultimately run into is there isn't like a meaningfully difficult EQ raid until Vish in DoN, and even he can be beaten with like 20-30 characters in era. In some way DZ only would dissuade guilds from Zerging (you saw this on Selo where every guild other than mine actually...

Phinny has Resolute and Rosengard III still going in addition to OGC. Resolute still has more than a full roster of mains, but is more casual. They recently (I believe) announced they would not pursue beating TBL in era due to the 4-clears (or technically 3.5) required for each tier to unlock...

A lot of us have suggested DoDH for those reasons. There's a bit of open world shenanigans in PoR but it's really pretty minor. Even TSS and SoD would still help a ton versus their current stance of "TRUEBOX FOREVER LULZ", like in SoD you can get fucking mercenaries which are really shitty...

Yeah the specific slots having specific foci are fairly standardized with the SoF armor and forward, although even that is tweaked slightly over a longer span of time. I would agree Mangler is more on the Phinny trajectory than Coirnav, but I'm more talking about the kind of universal TLP trend...

Mangler is doing a little better than Coirnav was at that point but it also started with more guilds than Coirnav did. The big issue is if you look at the list of Mangler guilds they're almost all "cycler" guilds I've seen on tons of TLPs, when the 2021 TLPs hit I foresee the typical outcome...

Glad to see you still going on Ragefire Lend! I miss the Ragefire crew, but at the end of the day I saw Selo as my only real opportunity to fulfill my autist dream of doing every EQ expansion so I had to leave RF behind. Now that we're rolling into ToV on Selo and have basically "seen it all", I...

Ah, I have Stellaris in my steam library but only played it briefly when it launched. Like most Paradox games they usually launch somewhat lackluster and then get improved tremendously by subsequent patches. I've never had the chance to circle back to it.

Paradox? You on that CK2 train??

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So in 2002-2004 era when EQ2 was being developed almost all games were dominated by that gender/age demo. Obviously there's been a big shift towards gamers being both older and more women playing than 20 years ago. That being said, I don't buy into the narrative that EQ1 was as described. You're...

I think EQ2 had a time in its middle years where it was decent. I tried it on launch and uninstalled it like 2 days later, but I remember trying it some time in the later 2000s when they were running some kind of promotion and got into it for 5-6 months and actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

Trivial loot actually was implemented on FV briefly, so it wasn't just lined up. It was discontinued pretty quickly due to universal dislike. I wouldn't agree that EQ was properly funded, both Brad and Smed have *multiple public interviews* where they explain its funding: The game was...

No, I pretty much know more than anyone about everything, nice try cuckles. Fanra's Wiki lists all the old devs and where they ended up, I know people at Amazon making $300-400k/yr as developers. I know everyone on the internet is a millionaire with a limitless supply of young virgin wives and...

I mean if you actually have followed the Dev team at all there have been like 30+ people to have cycled through, some have ended up at major companies like Amazon etc afterward. If more EQ fans actually knew how EQ was created, the limited resources it was given for its initial launch compared...

I didn't say you were a bad EQ player, I believe I said you were retarded.

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If you think a "red" EQ player has any point worth listening to, you're full on retarded.

Nothing you've said here contradicts anything I've said. In your own words the PvP servers were maybe 1/25th or smaller a % of EQs total population. They hadn't even merged all the blue servers down to their present state by 2006, with there being many more blue servers at the time, most of...