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Nearly all of this was clearly explained. The building of the forge was described in the second episode and even shown again in the recap. Durin covered mithril...it's lighter than silk, harder than iron, and more precious than gold. Gee I wonder how such a thing could connect with the big giant...

He mentioned the mouth of the river, and that he traveled down it once (to rob Elwing of the Silmaril?). Elrond talked a good deal about his lineage in this episode which would tie directly into that. It's a huge miss so far. It's not entirely too late to correct it but my confidence levels are...

Just finished it. This would have easily been the best episode so far...if the Galadriel / Numenor stuff wasn't hot steaming trash. Superficially, it's spectacular to see it in 4K on a 77" TV. It's absolutely gorgeous. Palantir also keeps some interesting things in his tower. But, it's all...

Haven't watched it.

I think most people understand that, but it doesn't excuse poor writing. Grogu in The Mandalorian is 70-80 years old or something but still childlike because of how long-lived his species is and that's fine. And as much as I may be in the minority here in largely liking this show, a thoroughly...

Blanchett also had the opportunity to endear herself to the audience in the LoTR films and the earlier Hobbit movie, so she generally earned that Dol Guldur scene, which helped give it some depth and context as well. Had she just popped up as the weird Sauron banishing swamp monster from the...

I rewatched Rogue One recently and really enjoyed it. It's definitely a highlight amongst the jagged, uneven mess that is modern Star Wars. It's just a shame that the protagonist had all the charisma of a flea. Fix that (and the janky Tarkin deep fake) and it could easily rank favorably...

That's actually not true. There's a fair amount of deep reverence to the source material on display within the show, and not just in surface level Easter egg-like references (of which there are many). It's clear that at least someone with a hand in writing this knows the mythology in extreme...

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That's from a movie called Splice. And the Slim Shady he/she/whatever the fuck it is isn't Sauron/Annatar, it's probably a priest from a Morgoth cult.

Tolkien is a bit flakey and extremely vague on this himself. The show only maintains adaptorial rights to the LoTR appendices (presumably), and all they say of this is "Tar-Palantir attempted to amend the evil; but it was too late, and there was rebellion and strife in Numenor. When he died, his...

They even made the horse look derpy.

They've cut more than that. I don't know what year of the Second Age the show is supposed to have started in, but it seems like they're compressing more like 3000 years into basically a couple of weeks so far. For no reason whatsoever I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that Tar-Miriel is...

Just give it a little time. It'll be in the preview image of all your rage bait buddies' videos soon enough.

Holy shit how did that make it into the final cut? That's going to be parodied all over the place but I don't know how it gets more goofy and weird than it already is. And despite the on-the-nose misdirections, what's his name isn't Sauron. He's going to be given a bad Aragorn reluctant leader...

She looks sufficiently Persian to me (and sufficiently...many other things). And I'm pretty sure Tolkien was going for a Middle Eastern aesthetic for the Easterlings who populated the areas east and northeast of Mordor.

I don't know what that quote is from, but in The LoTR prologue Tolkien describes Harfoots as "browner of skin". Ultimately, by the Third Age the three early Hobbit strains largely mingle into one people and they simply become...Hobbits. If anything, the multi-racial makeup of the Harfoot clan in...

Galadriel in this...nice? lol yeah sure he watched it.

The two trees are canon Tolkien, straight out of the Silmarillion and The LoTR appendices. When I played Elden Ring for the first time and popped up into the overworld where the giant tree is, they were immediately what I thought of. If anything, Elden Ring did the ripping off. And the trees in...

Then you won't mind walking me through how a scene created for a TV show, which is depicted in a reasonably accurate fashion to Tolkien's description of decades ago, could have been slipped into said show ostensibly for the purposes of wooing over nerds playing a game that...they weren't...

Are you having a stroke?

Elden Ring release date: February 25th, 2022. August 2nd, 2021: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/08/lord-of-the-rings-tv-series-release-date-first-image/amp

Yes, J.R.R. Tolkien, who died in 1973, did indeed rip off the video game Elden Ring.

It's not handwaving, it's a response to a specific comment that practically precluded the possibility of her racial makeup being alterable because of who her ancestors were...thousands of years ago. And yes, I'm sure that blackwashing a character who three people outside of hardcore Tolkien...

I don't need the Tar-Miriel thing explained to me. I've read the LoTR and the appendices multiple times. I've read the Silmarillion multiple times. I've read The Unfinished Tales and some of my Histories of Middle Earth hardback collection (no, I haven't read all 5000+ pages of that). Obviously...

Presumably she was seeking for Sauron in places where Morgoth and his minions would have already been seen or where there were rumors of them. We have no idea yet if she had already explored thousands of miles southeast (where the men's villages are) and declared an all-clear. I think Morgoth...

The marketing was fucking horrible. Whatever anyone's claims are to pattern recognition skillz, cast / crew interviews are almost always vapid trash directed by marketing to stir up whatever interest or controversy is going to gather up the most eyeballs. It seems that they particularly turbo...

I immediately figured it was mithril. Galadriel's ring is made of mithril and even though I don't know if Tolkien explicitly said any others were, it would make sense for them to be, and I'm guessing the shows's going to make this some sort of point of contention between Celebrimbor and the...

Congratulations. You've just destroyed your own argument by declaring every woman a Mary Sue.

Nenya provided the power of preservation and concealment, not the power to bounce Sauron out of Dol Guldur (or much of anything else other than stated in extremely vague terms). Even in the Hobbit movie she's shown using the light of Earendil from her phial to help drive Sauron off. Nowhere that...

Umm, and we saw LoTR before The Hobbit and we saw The Hobbit before this show. So how does your justification solve the Mary Sue issue for The Hobbit and not for this? It's the same character.

I sort of agree with both of you and I really wish they'd have gone into more background on the First Age (and even prior) and spun that into precisely why Galadriel is who she is, but I pin that at least as much on the fact that they generally can't, because they don't hold the rights to it, as...

There's also the fact that she'd have been a rotting corpse at the bottom of the ocean if dude hadn't swam down to save her life.

Re: Sea wurm, I was thinking the same. Whelp, she's going to solo this giant fucking thing with her dagger and then there will be no recovering from the subsequent avalanche of Mary Sue commentary. I was pleasantly surprised that the show went the opposite way and she and whoever-the-fuck left...

Who claimed that they didn't like it but will continue to watch anyway? These episodes are plainly 90% setup. The potential for a solid show is there and while the first episode dragged I enjoyed most of episode two. It will thrive or it will crash and burn based on how it advances and balances...

There are black-skinned men in the lore. Tolkien refers to them as "swarthy" men in The Silmarillion. They mix with the whities and produce various lines of descent. Some are referred to as Easterlings (not the same Easterlings that show up in The LoTR). A contigent of these black / mixed men...

No. Can you imagine judging FoTR by its first 35 minutes, which is basically exposition and a birthday party and then more exposition and some camping? This was just 2 out of an 8 episode first season of a TV show, not a movie. It already got decently better by the second episode so it's on the...

The high king of the Noldor had just declared all wars and violence over, welcome to utopia. They had nothing to fear in their minds, certainly not assault from the Dwarves. At worst they'd just bounce them the fuck out and shut the gate, as they did at first. As far as food, a pocket full of...

I was expecting full levels of awfulness here but unless that's how "sassy black girl" works in the UK I do not agree with this at all. Other than HAY GUYS LOOK AT OUR BRAVE DIVERSITY HIRE (and lack of beard) she was fine. She could have been played by any number of fat ugly white actresses...

Shrug, the first episode had some highlights and some nonsense but mostly just bored me. The pacing is better in the second one and I enjoyed it. At this point, anyone who is either gushing over this or shitting all over it can safely be ignored. There's a ton of setup here and it'll all hinge...