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  1. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Absolutely. They are lying about numbers and only the daybreak employee in this thread is even trying to argue otherwise. Dragonbr your post is so full of misinformation I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. I'll look up the video again when I'm not at work posting from my phone. I...
  2. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    um yeah you pulled this completely out of your ass, never said this. I don't for a second trust eg7's numbers now that you showed me they are claiming 66k subs in 2020 despite none of them ever logging in. I have to go back and find the video that was linked again from 2023 and find the spot...
  3. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    um, you guys are off by like an order of magnitude. no doubt there are always some people who don't check their CCs and notice they are being billed for things that they should of cancelled years ago. It happens, hell there are even apps now designed to help you catch these forgotten...
  4. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    the fitness model is based on guilt, people want to get in shape, lose weight, etc. The multi-year commitment gym contracts are sold that way, initially as motivation for you to keep showing up, since you're all pumped up initially you agree to it. When you stop going it's the guilt that keeps...
  5. Sylas

    Marvel Universe stuff

    get fucking harvey weinstein back, now
  6. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Yeah that one is on me, my bad. I looked at the chart and saw Quarter, didn't see YTD. since i saw september I figured it couldn't possibly be annual, I forgot that they are not an american company and don't use Fiscal Years for some reason, but calendar year? fucking weird. So i divided...
  7. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    First or all, again you are quoting the mau slide not the sub slide. I'm not sure why you think this is a gotcha, you are looking at the wrong slide. I see I hit a nerve, confirming you are in fact a daybreak employee, lol. :emoji_fork_knife_plate::emoji_poop::emoji_coffin::emoji_gay_pride_flag:. And no, I said they only have like 4k active...
  8. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    THJ is successful because it turned EQ into WoW...actually went way beyond even WoW, it made not just the leveling, but all group, dungeon, boss and raid content solo content. The people who still pay DB to play everquest absolutely despise WoW and wouldn't even play THJ out of spite. WoW...
  9. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Yeah this is where you are missing the point. "I want to play EQ, but i have no money" those types are playing on any of the dozens of EQ classic style emulators designed to recreate one of the multitude of versions of EQ from yesteryear, from P99 through any of a dozen other iterations. There...
  10. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    That's not the slide I was talking about. That is Monthly average users, and according to that slide, EQ has less than 100k (around 90k?), not 100-200k. I don't believe that for a second, personally, and I hope this lawsuit reveals the real figures. I don't know, maybe they are bringing in...
  11. Sylas

    WoW Ascension (Classless Realm)

    epoch is a non-starter since it's TBC baseline and not wotlk
  12. Sylas

    WoW Ascension (Classless Realm)

    so powered through to outlands as storm giant....i'm not sure if all featured builds are like this, but it reminded me mostly of SW:TOR, in that the entire class via the mythic enchants, is built around a couple of synergies where skill A triggers the next use of skill B to instacast and skill B...
  13. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    yes thank you, I went to the eq emu site myself since I couldn't see the screenshot on my phone. I see that at 0830 in the morning the day after a holiday of beer, bbq, and fireworks, that THJ, a locked server under threat of shutting down due to lawsuit, has 2380 players, more players than...
  14. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    What is that, a screenshot for ants? Seriously can't read it. I'll try and find the source. Oh and "leaked data"? Yeah right. I'll believe the enads investor data over some bullshit numbers like that. You're telling me every single eq subscriber logged into both tlps and mischief? Oh...
  15. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Last I played and last I saw it had over 4k peak daily players not sure where you are getting this 1800 from? I mean if you are averaging that 3am-6am time slots in when its nothing but traders afk sure. I don't know how many total players tried it but I'd wager its well above 50k since they...
  16. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    beyond anecdotal evidence I doubt very much that they've lost any money at all to THJ, certainly not in any amount that could be proven. In fact it would be easier to argue the opposite, that bringing in tens of thousands of former eq players and giving them an accessible, solo version of the...
  17. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    I understand that they are pretty much guranteed to win on copyright infringement that isn't really up for debate. however you fundamentally misunderstand THJ if you think 1/4 of them were regular TLP players. If Daybreak was a company that made skateboards, and a bunch of people who used to...
  18. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    it sounds like your argument is one of monetary loss? I hope to fuck that that is what daybreak argues so that we get to see the real numbers, because I guarantee you daybreak didnt' lose a single penny because of THJ. THJ brought in former players who can't or won't play eq live, all...
  19. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    wrong, random judge decides the law. This judge refused to let this be a sealed case which seems favorable, and did not issue an injunction to shut down services, only to prevent rolling out new content and to put all profits into an escrow until the case is heard. ideally since they claimed...
  20. Sylas

    Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

    this is retarded they could just literally make you suck their dick before they activate your account to play the game and it would be less gay and turn away fewer players.
  21. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    It's as free as every other emu running around out there with 100-500 players on it. No, the truth is a solo eq is wildly more popular and accessible to the potential player base available, which at this late stage is only former eq players who are much older with far less time available to...
  22. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Eh THJ proves that there is plenty of life left in eq if you expend any effort and talent on it. 20k real players, not a few thousand people each with 3-6 accounts like eq live. many of which were not part of the tlp ecosystem, hell half of them weren't even into the emu scene. Sure they are...
  23. Sylas

    Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

    Im playing ascension classless for that itch. If Im gonna be stuck with tbc might as well play a completely custom class that circumvents the shittiness of tbc class mechanics
  24. Sylas

    Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

    Yeah I'm looking at ascensions bronzebeard server, wotlk was a much superior baseline than tbc
  25. Sylas

    Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

    wtf is this nonsense? if your going to stick to some gay ass feature for realism then stick to being gay, having a huge burden that makes gameplay absolutely fucking AIDS, that is completely eliminated at higher levels accomplishes jack shit, except turn off new players and increase your steam...
  26. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    What are y'all going on about? I don't think anyone doubts daybreak has the right to sue them, we're just saying daybreak are faggots for doing so. They turned eq into a solo game, which given how tiny the player base is and their advanced age and "dad gamer" status, is the most refreshing...
  27. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Well there is actually sort of a murky area. They aren't using eq's code they are using the eq emulators code which is open source and pretty much what everyone uses for their emu. In addition to an extra 20 years of spaghetti code on top of it the live code also has replaced like half the...
  28. Sylas

    The Heroes Journey (Multiclass EQemu Progression Server)

    Wtf are you talking about. If you want 1999 eq then play p99 that is the point of that emu. This was a solo eq server and amazing at it, that was the point. Why the fuck are you even arguing this dumb shit?
  29. Sylas

    Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

    Oh nm, just read their feral changes. Kill wolfshead helm but then change furor talent to do the same shit. Like they are missing the point. Having to constantly power shift and cast gift of the wild fishing for omen procs is fucking gay and its the fucking central gameplay loop of this...
  30. Sylas

    Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

    Seems interesting I guess but I'm not familiar at all with tbc class mechanics/balance. Having 61 talent points but only being lvl 60 classic+ also seems weird. Were feral druids a viable class in tbc or not until wotlk?
  31. Sylas

    WoW Ascension (Classless Realm)

    So I started this up and was very quickly overwhelmed. was playing Blood Elf which i've never done before (missed out on TBC, but did most outland content on classic on the road to WOTLK), was doing the build your character thing picking every skill myself, and trying to wrap my head around all...
  32. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    idk someone said it in this thread. Like all numbers i took them at face value and extrapolated what that would actually mean. ie when people said eq was pulling in 20mil per quarter which, is just fucking ridiculous. That would mean either: A) all the financials are fake and this is a money...
  33. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    this is from 2023 not a few months ago, but just hopping around this 3 hour video: Daybreak is 39% earnings of 40mil per quarter Daybreak is 34% of ebitda Daybreak is EverQuest, EverQuest II, The Matrix Online, PlanetSide, Star Wars Galaxies, Clone Wars Adventures, Free Realms, Vanguard: Saga...
  34. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    I have no idea what you are talking about? There is no rage, only questions,it is you faggots getting super defensive lol. I guess it strikes a nerve calling you whales? Someone quoted eq is making 20mil a quarter. That is insane. I do not believe it. I was asking how they got to those...
  35. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Ok sure, how many subs do you think eq has? 10k? 20k? It sure as fuck isn't 500k. So its a handful of boomer retard whales spending hundreds a month on Kronos over to Chinese bot farms ran by daybreak gm's themselves? Anyone playing eq deserves what they get
  36. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    20mil in a single quarter means they have over 500k players paying 12.95 a month or whatever sub, which is patently false. They have like 3k subs, all whales, spending 750 a month in Kronos or whatever the daybreak cash shop currency is? Or are they straight up lying. Hopefully they push for...
  37. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    Again, If that's true then THJ should just buy the IP from the owner since they make more money than daybreak games does hit them with that reverse uno card and fire everyone at daybreak. and the WoW emulators do anything but lay low they advertise on fucking facebook instagram and X. It must...
  38. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    it makes me wonder how the many, many paid emulators for WoW, like ascension, turtle, etc exist. They are clearly for profit, they run non stop ads on social media, have cash shops etc, and Blizzard, as fallen as it is, is still actually a real company, unlike daybreak which is a fucking joke...
  39. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    if they made as much money from retarded whales like you seem to suggest then I hope they just buy the EQ IP and fire everyone at daybreak
  40. Sylas

    Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

    i'm pretty sure every EMU lists this as one of the options to get the client. i didn't use steam to get THJ I used a link in their discord that downloaded it from some other site.