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no, the problem with WoW is it's a loot pi?ata. you literally get an upgrade every half hour, so nothing has any meaning or value. you don't feel like you've really accomplished anything because loot is falling out of your ass faster than you can pick it up. what made EQ so great was the ultra...

exactly. unfortunately, most people don't understand this and they will play EQN for a few weeks and realize that they're bored out of their minds and not understand why.

you hit the nail right on the head, and you didn't even mean to. EQ was rewarding, and those rewards were so great it made playing the game that much more fun. why do you think casinos stay in business? losing money isn't fun, yet everyone stays for endless hours chasing the big reward.

holy shit, you're not 17 anymore? my god, there couldn't possibly be any other teenagers left in the world to play a MMO! call the whole thing off!

i have proof to back up my arguments, all you have is smed's cock down your throat.

i'm not confusing anything. people "think" they like something, but then they realize they are wrong. see every fucking MMO that is currently out that isn't called warcraft. if this multi classing system is so awe inspiringly awesome, why is GW2 so fucking bad? if these epic events are so great...

EQN is going to make them money hand over fist? if this game reaches anything close to the failure that was SWTOR i would call it a raving success.

no, what he's saying is he doesn't want to play a game where he's not needed because he is only an assassin (which is what he wants to play) and didn't bother to be an assassin/cleric/enchanter/monk/warrior hybrid. you fucking simpleton.

exactly. i mean, why make an EQ game that's like EQ? i know when i went to see "Empire strikes back" in the theaters i was saying to myself "man, i hope this is nothing like the last star wars movie, cause that would suck."

the balls to change things up? all they did is rip off every MMO currently out. rift, GW2, EVE, WoW, it's all there. how novel!

this. if this game was given a completely new title, i might be a little more optimistic, but there is absolutely nothing EQ about this game whatsoever. the classes are straight up GW2, the graphics are WoW, the epic quests are rift, and the sandbox is part UO and part EVE. so why even call this...

really? we need cartoony graphics for FACIAL expressions? facials are for faggots and women.

you just contradicted yourself. you begin by saying that specific class roles are bad, but end in describing how they are good (interdependency!) if everyone has the same spells and buffs, then you don't NEED each other.

i have no faith left in SOE. this game looks and sounds exactly like GW2, exactly. they can jizz all over each other and use buzz words to make the game sound awesome, but it's going to be everquest: the guild wars 2 edition. there could be a million different classes, but there will only be a...

a lot of people here were not clamoring for something new and different, what a lot of people posting here were wanting was for the MMO industry to return to its roots; which was the original EQ. what we got instead is a UO, WoW, GW2 mishmash; ironically a game involving everything except the...

making something PvP doesn't make it hardcore. try again.

people like you keep saying this, yet you have absolutely zero proof to back it up. there hasn't been a hardcore MMO made in the last 10+ years, so how do you know it won't make money? people said that the original star wars movie wouldn't make money too. how stupid do those people look now?

so you're saying you want to play everquest: the lion king edition. no thank you. you probably think jar jar was the best character in the star wars movies too, right?

really? you like the art direction? it looks like WOW and GW2 had an abortion.

but this is exactly what's going to happen. it's going to be "okay, i want to be the dps, so one of you has to be the healer, and someone else has to be the CC, etc..." it's one of those things that sounds great, but is poorly implemented.

exactly this. being able to be a warrior/chanter/wizard/rogue doesn't sound intriguing to me, it sounds retarded. if everyone can do everything, then there is no dependency on any particular class. like dumar said, you're no longer playing with bob the great cleric, you're playing with bob the...

it wasn't just to solo it for no reason, though. you could make a name for yourself by being the level 50 and going back to old content and helping others. i remember going back to felwithe and helping 3 people who died in the castle of crushbone to get their corpses back and killing just about...

exactly. ignorant people are just ignorant.

no, i get it, it's just that it sounds terrible. one of the best things about the original EQ was going back and face raping content that used to kick your ass.

sorry, but i see this as a bad thing, not a good one. i like feeling god like; aspiring to be elite is what makes me play these games. if i cannot become better, then why the fuck am i playing the game? if i'm the same guy the first day as i'll be two or three years down the road, or equal to...

lol!

i really hope you're right, but i'm betting it's going to be more like GW2.

yeah, i agree. without specific classes, you lose dependency. and without that, it's not really EQ. i just see it like GW2. sounds like a good idea, until you see it implemented.

finally! couldn't get on this site all f'ing day. probably discussed a million times by now, but i'm not going to bother reading 100 pages. my impressions: loved, loved, loved what i heard, not so much what i saw. not a fan of the art style. looks exactly like WoW. this game could be the second...

exactly. even professional body builders who are juicing don't look all that great until just before competition. they get "leaned out" just a day or so before the show by removing a lot of the water from their bodies which makes their muscles hard and vascular. hell, look at pics of someone...

the future of my MMO life rests in the hands of smed and company...fuck me running.

this game is going to come down to whether or not they learned from their mistakes when they made the abortion that was EQ2 and can they possibly catch lightning in a bottle again like they did when they made the original EQ? my guess would be, no.

i'm really hoping this game delivers. the first EQ was my favorite game of all time, and after the abortion that was D3 last year, i've become a cynic. i'm hoping that i'm playing EQN with you guys for the next 4 or 5 years, and not 4 or 5 weeks...

i agree with joot. there's a big difference between comic relief and a movie being campy. i wouldn't consider any of the LOTR to be campy, even though they had scenes that i don't think should have been put in the movies (like some of the legolas scenes or the dwarf toss). mary and pippen...

nope, not me, but a pretty fucking good question. apple is one of the top company's in the world, why the fuck would you not have your game released for it?

couple of things: a definite yes to racial starting areas/cities. everyone starting in 1 or 2 spots is ghetto. secondly, this isn't going to be available for mac at launch? this is 2013, isn't it? the fuck!

hard factions is a deal breaker for me. the faction system in original EQ was perfect. keep it that way.

because it's a very, very slippery slope. if you have people willing to spend $5 on some stupid, meaningless item, then they are sure as shit going to pay $29.99 for sword of dick swinging. all these companies see are dollar signs. why only go for the little sums of money when you can sell big...

true, but my point is more that if you want to make a campy, action flick then just make it a campy, action flick. trying to make it serious and campy at the same time never works. i would have liked the movie a thousand times more if it was just an 80's like action flick, instead of trying to...

it's only been stated a hundred times by everyone involved with the game. i actually believe them about this one point. whether or not it will be a GOOD non WoW clone is another matter entirely.