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NO. No. Noooooooooooo. Stop with the bulshit. They get everybodies data and analyze the exabytes+ of data. i.e. data mining. Which is why people like the Tsaernaves were completely overlooked.

Another Kreugen Thread Bomb "KTB" (tm). The thing is an MMO is more than the sum of its parts - so even if Creedy is describing TSW maybe the TSW system will work better in a game with Storybricks instead of Quests and +1 Vorpal Swords instead of guns. We can talk about...

Unless some indie surprises, pretty much. Also Alex was an asshole and one of the reasons the fohguild boards went to shit - after about 2008 he would just permaban anyone who bitched too much about WoW/Blizzard. EQN can't possibly be EQ1 Reborn (or UO reborn) there will be lots too dislike...

Give them a couple of years.

Yes.

Yep. Sucks because dedicated roles promote emergent gameplay. You have to learn to master a class' abilities instead of fucking around with the FOTM skill build.

Yes, def a "be all you can be" vibe from Georgeson. -_- The nice thing abou classes in a fantasy game is that it makes it easy to form pugs. You know what you need (tank, healer ,2 dps, cc, +xtra). And what classes fill those role.

Ugh. I also hate crap like halfling paladins pummelling some Diety or the other. Halflings don't belong in metal armor.

Ugh. I don't like the be all you can be meme. Class choice should matter.

bleh. I like class/race choices to matter. This is okay if limited by class/race. I'm fine with a hybrid system of some sort, but you still needs levels.

Former WoW lead on his regrets while trying to shill his new game:http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...-Too-Easy.html

Why doesn't it gimp the casual player?

DCUO sorta did this, it doesn't work as well as you think. You're just replacing levels with item tiers. Alternatively you have to design encounters with specific resists (e.g. nature resist/AQ BS in Vanilla WoW) so all you end up doing is forcing a different kind of grind.

Levels aren't the problem. The rush is the problem. Someplace between vanilla WoW and EQ is the right leveling speed, beta/early VG was pretty close but while it had nice dungeon design it had crappy loot and crappy bosses compared to EQ. Levels, properly implemented, provide a nice sense of...

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The issue wasn't whether I want sex on the first date. The issue is what is more satisfying: sex on the first date, or sex after you've been chasing a girl, worth chasing, for a while and finally getting it.

Putting it another way. You want to eat the best peanut butter and jelly sandwich in your entire life? 1. Wake up at 8am and make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich (with your favorite peanut butter, jelly and bread). 2. Put the sandwich and a glass of water in the refrigerator. 3. Do...

Oh give me a fucking break. All men much prefer a challenge than the girl who will sleep with them on their first 'date'. Sure you'll sleep with the girl you met at the bar, and maybe go out with her for a bit after that but what your really want is the hot girl that you have to work on for a...

Why do you think the NSA has a hardon for Quantum Computers? QC are awesome for decryption.

@Edit - abso-fucking-correct. That's the point. You get the dopamine high by doing it the old-fashioned EQ way. You don't get it from the new-hotness. @SoftTargeting - Bah, I'd try it in a some game where the fireball also damages everything (including members of your party) if they're in...

Trinity works for PvE. PvPers get pissed off because it doesn't work for PvP so they bitch and companies spend generations of man-time trying to balance it. Which is full retard. You should never balance an MMORPG for PvP. MOBAs are balanced for PvP, not MMORPGS, a properly PvP balanced...

And EQ2 was a horrible failure. The reality is that you need downtime, tediousness and boring shit in a game because those lows make the highs higher. When the guy finally pops holding the item you've been waiting for for the past 4 hours it's a great fucking feeling. @Draegen I don't know...

See my comment about March 16th, 2014 release. It is quite possible that SOE releases the game then (or earlier) but if they do so, the game releases without some key stuff (e.g. raids/types of housing) - similar to how PS2 was released early and feature incomplete. I don't care if you're...

You should go play Project Gorgon.

Yes any real discussion is pointless right now - since it is only a little over a month to the reveal. There is no way it comes out this year given the hiring by StoryBricks and SOE. I think the earliest is the March 16th weekend but more likely Q3 or Q4 2014. I'd expect a big presence at...

Oh I didn't realize Draegan added Wildstar Junkies already.

I did a long time ago when I didn't know about the combat. Nothing ever showed up. I have the worst luck with betas.

This. Otherwise, same rules as fohguild where Req/Raaveen also didn't allow closed beta leaks.

Thanks for all the info. Fear break in EQN?

Which means what for those of us who didn't play GW

The reason why this is such a stupid discussion is because SOE will put a shitty voicechat client in the fucking game because it will be on the fucking PS4. See PS2 and DCUO. Can we go back to discussing EVE elements in EQN? Or someone defending DDR mechanics? FFS

Any of them affiliated with the US Government and capable of siccing a drone on you?

Go play EQMac

OT/DT is better because it allows for DT-based class abilities such as rescues, and of course allows healers to dps and or cc while they heal.

I just want Offensive and Defensive Target. I could give a fuck about voice/text at this point and after this discussion. Give me VG's OT/DT and I'll play the game even if it's just a wow clone.

People are bored I presume. No new info and 36 days away. But yes, a completely pointless discussion.

sent you a pm

Mughal is an SOE employee so probably. But since he (a) can't talk about EQN until reveal and (b) will probably stop posting if you or others pester him. Why don't we just ignore that fact until August 2nd?