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Yeah I'm doing the same thing. Think I've settled on the following: S-1 P-4 E-5 C-7 I-9 A-1 L-1 I'm kinda concerned about missing out on sneak and armour crafting, but they are low in their respective trees, so it's not the end of the world if I decide I need/want them.

Yeah. Paying for that exclusive is starting to look reallllly dumb. Another in the long line of Microsoft facepalms this generation.

Is it viable to play without using VATS? Looks like pussy shit.

That actually looks LIGHTYEARS better than what I've seen of FO3/NV. If it's that consistently not lame looking across the weapon types, my desire for a dismemberment toggle will probably approach zero.

Anyway, the skills deeper into the perks are mostly pretty bland. Looks like I'm gonna go pretty deep into INT and possibly CHA

Alright man. Good luck to you.

Hahahaha or maybe I'm trying to bring some levity into a conversation that you have absolutely polluted with your usual levels of batshit crazy aggression?

Did you get an early copy man? Cuz you have some serious Nerd Rage happening.

Maybe I don't want my kids to turn out like you, bro.

1. It wouldn't be sub 4K sales after 3 years. That's not what that figure says at all and you know it. It says that among PC gamers, who participate in modding, after 3 years of release, there is STILL enough residual demand for such a feature that 3000+ players would seek it out. Imagine if the...

Those ratings are suggestions. As a parent I have final control, and game companies should know this.

Maybe you'real right, but I'll tell you this. I'd let my Young teen/tween play something with blood splatters from gunshots or sword swipes, but would not let him play something with graphic dismemberment. Call it arbitrary if you like, but I bet I'm not alone.

3300 total DLs on just the platform that currently allows modding, in the community of people who use mods, 3 years after launch. Demand exists.

That's not the argument at all. It's not about potential loss, it's about potential growth.

I admit, I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to development time. But go ahead and change my numbers to an entire year. What's that, 9000 copies? What are they projecting to sell on this one, 5,000,000+? I bet it's still more than worth it.

So not to be that guy... But how do you know how many people avoid Fallout games due to gore? How long do you think it would take to add that toggle? Let's be super conservative and say it would take one programmer one entire month of work. That's about $7500 in costs to the dev house. Let's...

Vocally wishing an option exists =/= demanding change to an artistic vision. I just want a toggle button like any number of other graphical preferences. I'm still gonna buy their game despite the poorly executed and nonsensical limbsplosions. Don't worry.

Yeah, apparently hodj is to Fallout as Dumar is to EverQuest. Who knew? Anyway, I'm still going to play the shit out of Fo4 despite the fact that I clearly don't understand how deep it is because of flying eyeballs mannnnnnnnn

The thing is, despite my distaste generally for gore, I've often enjoyed 'extreme' examples of it that have artistic intent. For example, Tarantino almost always executes it very very well. From what I've seen of FO3/NV... it's done pretty poorly. Wish I didn't have to endure their terrible...

One has gameplay implications and one does not? Come on man, you're smarter than that.

Their ragdolling/gore effects are fucking lame looking, and detract from my immersion in the world they've created. Pieces of art are different things to different people bruh. Stop being such an authoritarian.

Who is demanding anything you fucking nerd? lmao

Yeah. I bet the devs going to work on Fallout every day consider dismemberment 'the heart of the franchise'. Without it the game would just be another 'watered down sci-fi shooter'. A (100% optional) toggle for limb dismemberment would totally betray the experience for fans of the series.

I'm not triggered by gore lol. I just think it's lame and weird. I'm still gonna play the game because I like literally everything else about it. The setting, story, and mechanics are all super compelling. I'm just asking for a gameplay option or toggle that's says 'you can avoid limbs flying...

So enlighten me. What about over the top, silly gore is critical to the game? How would adding a simple toggle betray the experience to a degree that I may as well not even play it? Even if I like every single other system?

That's annoying. Oh well. Thanks. Hopefully there's an option to shut that stuff off at some point.

So I'm not a fan of gore in video games... or really media at all. I can handle it, but I just always find it a bit lame. I never played the most recent Fallout games, and I'm wondering how energy weapons behave. If I stick to energy weapons will enemies just get 'disintegrated', or will I...

sounds a lot like Destiny

Wait... People thought The Division was going to have EVE-like territory control systems? No fucking wonder people are so disappointed. It's not going to be anything like that.

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So they let the press/PAX attendees test the combat in a controlled demo environment. If there was a demo of EverQuest at PAX, within which they had to convey the fundamentals of the game to a player in 5-10 minute intervals, would they drop you at the starting point in Qeynos or Kelethin...

I dunno man... probably. Who cares though? I don't understand what people think is going on in these videos, but the game looks fucking excellent. The world is open and massive. From the looks of it a large portion of New York City including Southern Manhattan Island. This open world is...

Uhhhh isn't it? The Division : 39 Minutes of Gameplay And Trailers - Demo gameplay HD - YouTube

Wait where is this info that it's just a generic shooter now? What did I miss? Surely it's not just one dude's impressions of a preliminary tradeshow demo?

So then doing 9 INT at character creation seems like a smart idea to me. *rimshot*

At this point, who the fuck cares? This is better than most television, and he's doing it for free. Just enjoy the ride, man.

Dude. Why? Ask for the bills and pay them yourself.

I'm gonna wait for reviews of the dogfighting and CTF modes. Not a day 1 purchase for me, and certainly not a full price retail purchase. I refuse to give EA my money, so I'll buy it second hand.

Ain't no burger flippers making six figures bro.

Because I'm guessing most people who watch twitch/YouTube gaming are teenagers. Explains PewDiePie too. Edit:i was right