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  1. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    One small point, I thought the vial of blood was evidence from the prior case so was being stored in the Clerk's office, not police station. Still likely the same people had access to it, though.
  2. popsicledeath

    NBA 2015-2016 Season thread

    This could be an amazing comeback!
  3. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    You don't have to explain the stupid shit you're doing. We've noticed. And I wasn't theorizing. I was saying if you wanted to play dipshit internet detective there are far more interesting and compelling directions you could be going other than repeating bullshit from clickbait articles on...
  4. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    They allegedly also raped her, stabbed her, shot her multiple times in the bedroom. I guess nothing is out of the realm of possibility if you watched a lot of Mr. Rogers and are really good at using your imagination. All your useless spamming in this thread would be far more interesting if...
  5. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    It's because you're like a lonely, bi-polar housewife, so I use language as such. In part because all the things you're so excited to discuss are the same things my girlfriend mentioned she read in People magazine, saw on The View, or that I've overheard from women at work. Then, when someone...
  6. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    If you consider the documentary spoon feeding, the stories the prosecution were feeding everyone must be akin to mouth rape.
  7. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    But it's still fun to pick and choose the juiciest details so you can claim someone is potentially guilty of murder! Someone should make a party game where you have a ton of tidbits of information seemingly related to a case but when a few bits are taken out of context any story you want can...
  8. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Bleach that stains pants wouldn't hide evidence of blood and if they used chlorine bleach they could show that the area was cleaned which is more damning evidence than taking a jackhammer to the garage and finding none of the victim's DNA or evidence of a crime scene at all and having to plant a...
  9. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    If they had used chlorine bleach then evidence of blood still would have shown in the garage. If they used Oxygen bleach it would have cleaned the evidence of blood but then the kid wouldn't have stains on his pants. But perhaps your brilliant theory is true that he wrapped her in a blanket...
  10. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    To me, personally, none of the evidence is conclusive or damning enough for me to even let myself have a gut feeling that Avery did it. Meaning, no way I could say 'yeah, I think he did it' because, as to the black and white engineer discussion I just don't have enough information...
  11. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    This is actually a really valid point. We have irrefutable proof as presented at trial that Avery answered the door in a towel and requested her specifically, which certainly proves infatuation, which would lead to stalking, which is logically going to result in rape, torture, and murder! You...
  12. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    The problem is how we prove people are guilty is through a trial. So all the speculation about 'if he did kill her' is irrelevant, because that "if" is determined by the very trial people are agreeing was corrupted and an injustice. If he did kill her you don't think he deserves to be released...
  13. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Consider Nester fully schlonged. Seriously the most fascinating aspect of this case for me is watching the same human nature that leads to this sort of travesty of justice play out in responses to a documentary trying to highlight those very failings of our system and human nature. We have...
  14. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Where'd you copy/pasta that from? Because it's all bullshit has already been presented as a smoking gun but hasn't amounted to much of anything. Good try, though. I heard you were also drawing up plans for a torture chamber? True? We don't know.... but I bet you sure hope there was some...
  15. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    I guess my response would be: who cares? The injustices and precedence set in this trial should be what people are disturb enough by to not only be discussing the issue, but jumping to action. Instead, we have people playing out many of the factors that led to the unfair trial in the first...
  16. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Did you just apologize after all but admitting you're simply here to troll and argue based on avatars as opposed to anything actually said. Classy!
  17. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Ah, I get it. I'm just putting words in your mouth and am ignorant and I doesn't deserve a response to the actual subject because I'm the one not discussing it and you'll show me by only discussing the fact I'm not discussing the discussion and you're technically right anyway and I don't know...
  18. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    I would say you're backward engineering an agenda. You're watching something, noticing the reaction, and then presuming intention from the onset by the producers of something that caused the reaction. I'd like to see what evidence, fact or logic you have to attribute the public reaction you...
  19. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    I have no problem discussing how a film is made. My personal annoyance is the people who think their ignorance of a subject somehow proves they're knowledgeable under some bullshit pseudo-philosophical guise. Like if you don't know something you're justified in being ignorant because nothing...
  20. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    And if they had done this, some of the same people would just come and say that proves how bias and manipulative they're being by trying to present an unsympathetic hero to con people into rooting for redemption. In short, there is always a non-argument on an anti-subject that some people...
  21. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    The in-court footage was highly slanted toward the subject of the documentary. The documentary wasn't about how even the worst, most corrupt, underhanded prosecution and local law enforcement still sometimes do things right. What would you have included in the documentary that wasn't included...
  22. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    edit: holy crap forum server is dying. double post and all.
  23. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    I'll explain that from my perspective this is how our interaction went: So, I felt the reasonable response was to ask you to provide all the key moments and inaccuracies the documentary was leaving out. And your response was: I literally asked you a question about the follow up research you...
  24. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Explain how you think it's crazy? From my perspective it's really not crazy at all, but rather commonplace and mundane. In fact, I'd be surprised if informing the jury on third-party liability laws in Wisconsin was part of the jury instructions. Thinking about it, I don't think either side...
  25. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    It makes you think. Evidence is a product of investigation. If they only have evidence pointing to one suspect, is it because that's the only reasonable suspect, or because that's the only place law enforcement was looking for evidence? Add to that a state where you can't then do your own...
  26. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    That's a good question. I would think not directly, though, as that could influence a jury. Imagine if part of jury instructions were that the defense has other suspects they wanted to point to but the judge wouldn't allow it, so the jury isn't to think about what other suspects the defense...
  27. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Wait, let me get this straight... you're offended someone would ask you to respond critically to what you saw in a documentary without you doing follow up research, then admit you won't waste your precious time on research because you really don't care. So, your only point was to come to...
  28. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    It was pretty much only limited to this extent because Wisconsin has a law that says you aren't allowed to point the finger at other suspects without meeting the burden that they had motive, means, etc. That a judge could allow it, but the judge here said nobody the defense brought up met that...
  29. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    What key moments in that courtroom did they a) edit out that proves the jury made the right decision and b) changes the fact that what we did see sure seems like enough to raise reasonable doubts and jury instructions are literally that you should not convict if you have any reasonable doubts...
  30. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    I don't think even Column wants to be associated with you and your retardation. But nice try.
  31. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    If you were more than happy to cut this shit out you wouldn't have double-downed with retarded insults in the first place when most in this thread were telling you to shut up and/or fuck off. So, at this point whining about how others can't take what is being dished out and trying to use that...
  32. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Was going to answer civilly, but you're still calling people cocksukerbreath, and I still honestly think the best thing that could have happened in your life was your mother aborting you. But hey, let's give it a shot: One of the issues people have with your logic is that you basically...
  33. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Wasn't Jive's expert theory that there wouldn't be any evidence of blood or DNA or anything at all from the victim because Avery could have wrapped her in a blanket?
  34. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    I wish your mom had scratched you off her Uterus list.
  35. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    The intention of our system is that no innocent man is ever wrongly convicted. So, first off, please go fuck yourself. Secondly, if you don't think 17 is bad: National Registry of Exonerations
  36. popsicledeath

    Service Providers (Internet, TV, Etc)

    Even joining the civilized isn't that amazing. Charter regularly downloads at 65mbs a second (edit to clarify Mbps just wrote it weird), but upload is usually less than 5. Trying to use Nvidia game-stream from two Charter connections both downloading over 60 is nearly impossible because of...
  37. popsicledeath

    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    I haven't really been into or followed emulation servers much, so forgive my perhaps ignorant question, but is there any history of a developer/publishers supporting a game? With The Elder Scrolls for instance you have unofficial mods be adopted as supported. Has that ever happened or have the...
  38. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    Well, probably not in that shithole of a county, but yeah, settling lets the powers that be say they only settled because it was cheaper than fighting and still proclaim no wrong doing. In short: the frame job was a success!
  39. popsicledeath

    NBA 2015-2016 Season thread

    But is it finally time to crown the Cavs?
  40. popsicledeath

    Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info

    At one point there was a small snippet of them pressing the kid to say he understood his rights. So pretty sure they at least covered their asses that much.