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been a minute since i read bran's parts, so i'm sure someone who analyzes it will come correct me, but here's my theory on Cold hands: He's just a wight. There's nothing special about him at all. He's not some famous or even named person. random dead ranger #43. he himself has non...

Every time they start with the caw cawing of all the crows I'm like "oh cool, finally they are going to reveal cold hands", but nope. This time it was just Ghost. Also, Cold Hands is most certainly NOT benjen Stark so not sure how that is related.

i suck at embedding stuff. This is old news, but just goes to show how real the wire was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Paris_(845)

bad writing is bad writing. again this show needs less talking and more fighting.

George R.R. Martin | Talks at Google - YouTube it's an hour of GRRM talking about the show and his involvement, answering questions. For basically a direct quote of what I posted, Skip to the 32:30 minute mark. He uses the same example, aliens coming down to westeros.

You realize GRRM has no veto power on the show, right? Next episode they could have aliens come down to westeros and start anal probing and there is fuck all that GRRM can do about it. He's contractually obligated to write 1 episode per season so they'd tell him what needs to happen in the...

What reputation was that? You give him too much credit. He lost it all already on Vanguard. He was already at the point that no Investor/publisher in their right mind was going to give him any money, hence the KS to fleece the minute handful of willfully ignorant fanboys he still had. But he...

Well tbh I can really only think of 2 major hiccups as far as the story telling is concerned. Obviously they've changed tons of stuff from the books, but the TV show itself has been internally consistent, except: 1: The jaime cersei "I didn't think that was rape" scene above, which the...

so when the Showrunners fuck up the story so badly, you get things like this: The director of that episode said that he believed that what he filmed, was consensual sex by the end. Obviously the people who watch TV or know the definition of rape disagreed because it's been nothing but "omg...

When Peter isn't going all "creepy uncle" with Sansha literally everything he tells her is true. He is grooming her. I'm not sure yet if he's decided if he wants to fuck her or keep her as his "daughter" but she is his protege. The fact Sansa knows everything, that baelish is responsible for...

there were "joffrey theories"? When Peter Baelish explains what happens in the novel, it's unreliable narrator, omg he's lying even though not really omg, etc When Peter Baelish explains what happens in the TV show, nearly word for word the same, it's all good, we finally believe him?

Uh the taking of mereen was basically a 1 paragraph recap after she sent Barristan and Jorah through the sewers. They didn't cut shit out, there wasn't shit to cut. Thing is, they basically kinda merged the method in which she took mereen with the way they took Yunkai last season, probably...

So about half the book readers are screaming "omg spoilers" (GRRM did say WoW would take us further north than we've ever been) and the other half are dismissing basically every major deviation as "most expensive fan-fic ever made." i'm firmly in the "it's an adaptation, which will end before...

hbo has changed the synopsis from Night's King to "White Walker"

rofl. all Pantheon proved was that a shit KS ran by a drug addict was able to scam 150k from less than a thousand gullible suckers. His only claim to fame was being involved in the completely accidental success of a video game 15 years ago, having burned all his industry bridges with his...

*shrug* it's basically a given, to me. idk maybe i'm remembering wrong but I could of sworn that grrm confirmed that oberyn had poisoned tywin and he was going to die anyway. Of the mountain of foreshadowing, references, and coincidences that support oberyn poisoned him the clearest to me is...

this show is trying to do the political intrigue that other shows do well and it's just failing. Less talking more fighting please.

wait what. and you people have problem with the Oberyn poisoned Tywin "theory" which i'm pretty sure GRRM already confirmed a long time ago at a con or something (saw some youtube video with him pretty much stating this was a fact). Ok there's passages that hint that Aerys may have lusted...

IIRC Tyrion decided half way through the trial that it was clearly going against him and demanded a trial by combat. Knowing that cersei would choose the mountain as her champion, Oberyn volunteered to by Tyrion's champion. By this point he had already accomplished his mission of poisoning...

Lannisters? Which lannisters are those? The only lannister's left to hate (cersei) has her complete downfall paraded about you in book 4 and it has nothing to do with LS. LS exists solely as vengeance against the Frey's, and basically dissolves the bwob and what it stood for to achieve it...

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yeah except no. The time to show all of that would have been throughout season 2 and 3 while they were fighting throughout the riverlands. Their reason for excluding it is reasonable. They were forced to recast the mountain at the last minute and the guy they got to replace the mountain...

with ~2500 pages left to adapt into about 10-14 hour long episodes I don't see why anyone would choose to add pointless fluff to justify bookreader lipservice by adding a minor character.

Since they filmed this season of GoT last summer I don't think her current filming schedule matters much. If anything, if she wraps up shooting of 24 within a few months, and they do decide to include her, she can film her 1 episode for next season in a few months when they start filming season...

So how many storylines can they wrap up book 3 on and start on 4/5? The more 4/5 stuff they can start this season the less rushed (or less cut) next season will seem as they've got a lot of written words to convert into season 5 (books 4/5). Bran's story being completely isolated they can...

entirely possible that Oyrs the First was a king in the TV series, since it's an adaptation of the books with many, many changes and not a literal translation.

I feel that episode is just a build up episode for manmade global warming or some other highly politicized, scientifically shaky topic.

While I like to read this thread I try to stay out of it as much as possible. You may consider this pussy shit but it's a story about the publication of the books, not the actual stories contained within them so hopefully it will clear up the matter. The current season being aired is the...

dipshit? lol fgt. I stated lady stoneheart wasn't essential plot wise. She isn't. You claimed I hadn't read the books because I said she doesn't have any POV chapters, you were obviously mistaken, and I accept this post as a further apology on your behalf for your ignorance.

I'll take that as your apology and recognition that you did not read the books.

Them adding frey's to people they kill doesn't require much after the RW. with or without LS it's simple for the TV show to justify having them hunt down freys. And where are you getting that the bwob is likely to capture riverrun in the next book? Some teaser chapters I haven't seen?

Did you? Tell me how many POV chapters lady stone heart has. not really. She's mentioned and referenced throughout the later half of the book, but really the BWOB pretty much dissolves when she is resurrected and what few follow her just go about hanging a few freys. She doesn't do anything...

Not sure if they are going to include it or not, I doubt it tbh, but it's not really that big a deal if they don't. In fact it's probably better for the TV story that they don't. Does it serve the TV series to have zombie cat's body appear in 1 or 2 scenes? She's not a POV character, she's...

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um this is the no spoiler thread right? so why did someone post the link that spoils who and how they killed Joffrey? and why are you guys still debating it for 3 more pages when the answer has already been spoiled? you guys are that hardcore?

IIRC, unlike the TV show, Mel never meets or hears about Thoros/Beric/BwoB, or learns about the kiss of life, or that resurrection is possible. It's possible that she will say the funeral rites as Thoros did and it happens, by coincidence, as it did with Beric, but I doubt it.

GRRM is trolling all of y'all. Jon is dead, dead. not coming back. This story is basically the same as star wars, had they went the other way. obiwan "that boy was our only hope" yoda "no, there is another" Meera Reed, aka Jon Snow's twin sister, raised by howland reed as his own...

please god no. If I could stab you in the face over the internet I would. please kindly die in a fire irl faggot and stop your crying.

Not exactly sure it's a Winds of Winter spoilerper se. Either GRRM is much more diligently writing winds than he's lead us to believe with his tours and promotions and other things he's been working on, decided to include a throwback bit in to a minor scene he wrote 16 years and 4 novels ago...