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No pretty sure that game was always ranked shitty because it was empty stats. I do agree the stat being proprietary is stupid, though.

And yet, even looking at Lamar Jackson...last year's playoff loss to the Titans, in the end he had over 500 yards of offense, but the QBR pretty correctly rated his overall game shit with a 30.4. Not perfect by any stretch, but tries to put empty stats into context from what I've seen.

It's not that they overvalue running so much, it's that they give a lot of credit to rushing first downs. Maybe too much credit. But they also distinguish between say a 5 yards run/pass on 2nd and 5 that gets you a first down and a 10 yard gain on 3rd and 18 where the D just played soft as...

They might have found the glitch then. Most of those games at the top all make perfect sense. Not that I like being reminded of the night Vick absolutely destroyed the Washington Football team...but yeah.

Also weirdly, that isn't on this list... NFL All-Time Bests Total QBR | ESPN

Sounds like a glitch, although that is hilarious. Pretty much all of the time QBR matches the eye test for me on whether a QB actually played well or put up a lot of empty stats.

I just prefer how QBR seems to not let garbage time stats in games fool it, the way passer rating can look great b/c someone got to throw against a prevent for a full quarter/half.

QBR is the good one, you might be thinking of Passer Rating. Only brought up Brees b/c it's crazy how much his ability to throw the ball downfield died this past year or two. Meanwhile Brady has 8 seconds left against Green Bay in the 1st half and is dropping dimes for TD's still.

860 yards passing, 7 TD's 3 Int in 3 games. Total QBR 79.1. He's been pretty good overall. I do think Tampa was a pretty good team overall, but he's clearly also been guy to get them over the hump, and watching him throw the ball compared to someone like Brees was like night and day. I'm...

I mean, the game against Tampa can be viewed as a one off (they've also been the #1 D against the run 2 years in a row), as Jones was pretty great this season along with last year. But that only reinforces my point, if they're going to not want to pay Jones, but Rodgers thinks he has any real...

Obviously it takes a team, but we've also seen what a team even with great weapons can look like with an average QB and what the same/similar team looks like with another. Andy Reid knew what he was doing trading away Alex Smith to being the Pat Mahomes era. Smith had Tyreek and Kelce, hell...

I mean, if your team is going to burn their 1st round pick (along with more draft capital since they traded up) on your potential replacement, versus maybe more receiving help or other areas they could have improved, why not ask for more cash? Not to mention drafting another RB when they had...

Buddy of mine constantly gets into these "if you had to win 1 game, are you picking Rice over Megatron or Moss at WR" stuff. Rice is like the reverse era argument, in that his numbers destroy everyone else's like Gretzky's due in hockey, and he had the disadvantage of playing in era where...

I'm not sure if we're on the same page for what we're debating then. I don't think the debate between him and Montana is close at all anymore. I'm saying 6, 7 years ago whenever they beat Seattle for his 4th ring, I could understand if people still thought it was a debate. Just like if...

Well shit at this point it's not debatable. At that time 6, 7 years ago, the debate could have been had. Also Montana v. Brady number do get into the whole "eras" thing with how much passing numbers have exploded. Montana had 500+ attempts twice in his entire career, and only topped 400...

When compared to Montana? The debate then was Montana was a perfect 4-0 in SB's, Brady won his first 3 but then lost 2 in a row to Eli fucking Manning, botching the perfect season with vintage Moss on his team in the process. Then his 4th ring was more "Seattle choked" rather than he won.

I'm sure some would have, but it would still be an argument then, just like it was when Brady won his 4th against Seattle but had lost 2 to Eli and the Seattle one came after what most everyone thinks was a super terrible decision to not hand the ball off to Lynch for the easy TD. With 6...

4 out of 7 would have gotten who to where? Rodgers to Goat status? I don't think that would put anyone else to Goat status when Montana went 4 for 4. It's the fact Brady has won 6, and been to 10 now that really put him over. That and 2 of his losses he handed his D a lead with under 5...

The problem I have with what this says is "could have gotten these teams to a Super Bowl". "A" Super Bowl? Sure. 10 in 21 seasons? That's a tougher sell for me. I guarantee if Rodgers was in Brady's spot all these years he'd have more than 1 ring. I don't know if he'd have 6 with a shot at...

No, it wouldn't be 20. Even the greats have down games, and the NBA example is different in the sense that they play best of 7's where better team is more likely to win than single elimination where crazy shit can just fuck your entire season. He also did play against other good/great teams...

This is true in a vacuum. When you do it over 20 years and multiple iterations of teammates even on the same team, then hop conferences and go to the Super Bowl again your first year in the NFC...you start to wonder if he was just the biggest part of the reason his teams went so much.

One thing I'm noticing, even as the OP Night Fae mission table...is how unbalanced the companions are. Some are just vastly more useful/powerful than others. I finally got my first "tank" companion for Night Fae from Renown this week, Qadarin or whatever, and his ability is only a 1 round...

@StoiCynic not a bad finish to your game.

And there it is, Caps at 13 points 5-0-3 through 8 games. Of course in the East, that doesn't get you much as Boston and Philly are both at 11 points and Boston has only played 7 games I believe.

Although they will then be in the same spot Washington and Vegas were in needing to get at least a point in their next game assuming the Caps hold on to their 5-3 lead with under 8 minutes left currently.

So did Bieniemy get totally shafted again? Or said no to some jobs?

I have to say, Rodgers stats in those situations are not great. Unless he's playing the Cowboys.

From 2 Cups back to back to a lot of not so great moves.

Tom anyway? Wasn't Mahomes the first QB ever to come from at least 10 down in 3 straight playoff games last year?

Could be, they did already face them once and beat them, along with Denver's twice, the Ravens early in the season, the Saints, and they beat Cleveland already. Tampa's pass D has improved this year, but KC is just a different beast to contain.

That's fair, I'd just heard people had grinded it fairly quickly and I did it semi casually but I do have the longest 2 left to do, obviously. Maybe it's b/c we did the whole fate grind thing in Eureka already that it seems so repetitive.

With 1 extra game played than either Vegas or Washington, who are both only 1 point behind.

Considering KC has seemed to spot everyone these last two playoffs (other than Cleveland) 2 scores at the start, I don't think they should ever be counted out completely. I'm a little curious to see what happens if KC ever has a playoff game that goes completely right for them...not going down...

I got up to mettle 13 fairly easily when it first was released, haven't been on as much and not in there when I have been to finish it off, though. Are there less players in there to spawn as many fates nowadays? It was a bit grindy for sure, but this is all pre nerfs/catch up mechanics if...

We looked okay tonight, especially early on, and knowing all the guys we are missing. I thought we were cooked for sure getting nothing on the 5 minute power play.

I guess that sorta makes sense, although the original BA is still done by people that organize runs, crazy enough. Once everything is done in X.5, there's always a lot of time for people to run that you'd think.

Is new bozjan only BA stuff? I thought this was confirmed not the last update to that stuff and figured the new BA would be last.

@Obsidian at this rate you're going to be suiting up for us Thursday night, but we manage to keep getting results

The dumbest stat I saw was the "most career playoff wins" one. Brady is #1, obviously, Brady since turning 35 is #2.

It's low...but the whole "no QB has never thrown for less than 6 per 1 on the ground" is problematic when Lamar is rushing for 1k yards a year. If he was throwing for 6k yards a year to go along with that they'd literally be winning every game by 20+ points and no one would be able to beat them.