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I think Wilson doesn't get enough credit. When they show the stats of what % of the offense he is now it's crazy. That running game they used to have is loooooong gone. Wilson is the running game. It's also what makes them so dangerous when they need points quickly. Guy can eat up 20 yards...

How the fuck are you short on that? Wow.

Nooooooooooo please choke this Walsh.

Hurt player helping to get this game to OT. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Please no OT.

N/m, they gave him the timeout

Why did Carroll not take the timeout immediately there?

Not that I'm rooting for Atlanta per se...but my nightmare here would be Seattle gets a stop, then only a field goal to send to OT where Julio can get 6 more points somehow to beat me.

Please...not to Julio. Just run it, get a first down, and kneel.

That throw to Julio on 2nd and goal had my heart in my throat. Was up 15.08 to start the night, Julio had 9.2 before that pass.

This is a bad challenge, and going to drop them to only 1 timeout.

That was a massive stop by Seattle there to keep it one score game.

Yeah, seems strange to call it when it's literally TD or bust.

Must've thought they had something on film to exploit. Kind of crazy.

Falcons starting to step up their game.

I hear ya. It's hard to really bitch about the blown call b/c literally any play made over the last 6 minutes of that game and it never gets to that point...but...we were on the 34 with ~28 seconds left, well within Rose's FG range. Just one of those things where I tell myself he would have...

Steelers OT Gilbert banned 4 games for PEDs

Heard something funny, not sure if legit. Stat was that no Peterman pass hit the ground incomplete...they were all caught by someone.

This. Buddy of mine is convinced if Eagles get home field, Saints won't be able to win outdoors in January up there...but defense and that running game travels.

Agree with Skrala on the experience factor. I see Brees and Payton being able to grind out a win. But that's as it stands right now. Could all change over last 6 games. NFC so stacked.

Report: NFL said intentional grounding call against Redskins was incorrect in final minute of loss to Saints Yup. When a loss seems like it can't get any more Redskins...it gets more Redskins.

Heard rumor league contacted the Redskins to say they got the intentional grounding penalty wrong near the end of regulation. Kind of sucks when at that point the ball was on the 34 in a tie game with 28 seconds left. Run it once, kick a 50 yarder for the win and whatevs. Would be a dick...

Yeah I think Eagles/Saints clearly top two, I'd almost give edge to Saints overall in NFC based on experience...but NFC might have other teams floating in there like Minnesota, Rams, Panthers, Seahawks, even the Lions potentially. NFC playoffs should be ridiculously good.

Newton's accuracy takes a hit because he doesn't throw a lot of dump offs. You throw it further downfield on average, your completion % is going to suffer. Agreed it still could be better, though. Not sure I'd say that's Kaep's only good year in the pocket, but even with Kelly he had terrible...

Some of us tried to tell Ambi and others that line was no longer #1. Even worse with an injury or two.

Daez I hope you didn't lose because of that injury, but suddenly I have a good sweat going into tomorrow night up 15 going against Julio.

NFC is fucking stacked.

Like I said, it's far better now than it used to be. But stigmas are still present, and do have an effect at times. Again, I don't think they had anything to do with Taylor benching. Just saying it still exists in certain places around the league.

I wasn't trying to compare Wilson and Vick as passers. The two are not the same. Although Vick's passing depth probably hurt his completion % quite a bit (something that Cam suffers from as well, because both tend to throw it further downfield). But he was a better passer than given credit...

Vick always had the stigma regarding his passing (you always hear it, the pocket passer stigma). Now with some of the running QB's in college, it was a legit issue going to the pros (RG3 rings a bell). Once his legs were gone, he couldn't do much. But that stigma has still been applied to...

After Cooks went off for Pats, I was only up ~17 points in my match up with opponent having Elliott and Witten tonight, and Julio Jones tomorrow night at Seattle. Suddenly with the Elliott thing I'm back on life support.

Even going forward depending on how bad of a concussion it is.

Eagles kicker out low key kind of important.

Dak not looking so hot without Elliott to lean on.

Their white QB has/is getting $44 million in guaranteed money this year and last. Not bad. I agree it doesn't have the luxury of it in general, but lets not go full crazy mode at the slightest mention of race playing a factor when we're talking about the QB position. The stigma still exists...

This statement, while statistically true, is still pretty misleading when talking about the QB position specifically, and how black QB's have been treated over the years. That said, don't think Tyrod's benching had anything to do with racism. I think it comes into play in general with people...

Only. The. Redskins.

Btw weren't we just talking about no one asking for Mariota to get benched? That was a 23-17 game at one point.

Honestly a lot of it isn't even Big Ben...but having basically the best (or near the best) at RB and WR in Bell and Brown. It's just insane what either guy can do on any given night.

Totally didn't notice that. Fuck me.