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I'm not talking about progression systems or any other minutia of the MMO world... I'm talking about FUNDAMENTAL flaws with this game. The story, the animations, the graphics, the combat system... It's all atrocious.

Finally got a hero off limbo boss last night. daredevil, the hero I wanted least. Fml.

Too bad everything else about this game sucks so bad

I doubt they are trying to make eq2 the wow killer. What I'm guessing is we'll need a new acronym after it comes out, because mmorpg just won't be accurate anymore

Can't dungeon spawns just be dynamic? Why does target_mob_01 only have to spawn at location X? Why can't he spawn at location X, Y, or Z? Why can't all the named in a dungeon's population have a %chance to spawn anywhere in the dungeon, or at least in several pre-determined places?

Meh, got my 20-30 hours of gameplay out of this for free so no harm done. I'd continue playing if I got a new hero to drop that intrigued me. If that were the case I'd drop some money on bank space... But for some reason I can't justify buying a character without knowing how it plays. I think a...

Hmmmm... Headset = headphones? Last I checked one has a mic and one doesn't... This is a stupid argument based on personal preferences...

Headphones?

Not everyone likes wearing a headset and having conversations at your monitor. My gf certainly doesn't appreciate it while she's trying to sleep either.

Sorry I just can't do it. My face starts to hurt.

I think it's more about mental exhaustion when playing an FPS.... Well... Doing it well anyway. If you are playing for 4+ hours, I'm guessing you like to snipe.

Quoted the wrong post. Mean to quote Dandai.

He said wryly, while posting to his favourite online video game message board.

Uhhhhhhh hold the fuck on a second. If that guy is an MMO Vet, then I must be the fucking He-Man of the video game Universe. That was some of the newbiest gameplay I've ever seen. He was almost totally confounded by the 'shoot down the helicopters' quest, and other standards mmo tropes...

I'd be stoked on EQnext for a console if I could play it with a Bluetooth keyboard + mouse :P

This guy is clearly a fucking reject. I say don't ban him, don't shaw his posts, lets just make him our new punching bag.

You guys are right... I think I may be referring to socializing during downtime rather than combat... But I guess in old MMOs there was more of that. Still, I can't stand active combat in MMOs... Maybe it's because I play them to chill out rather than be excited.

Meh, I had plenty of time to type during EQ and WoW

Exactly. Games like TERA try to make combat twitchy, but it's never quite satisfying. This is my point - I don't feel it belongs in MMORPGs. One could argue quite convincingly that the draw of an MMO is social interaction. Why then, would you make an MMO in which during the largest portion of...

For longer periods of time. Absolutely.

So did the NDA get lifted? There seems to be a lot of chatter so I assume so. Is the combat system based on tab targeting? Are there tons of terrible telegraphs? How about the loot situation? Does gear mean something or is it just 'Beaverskin Gloves of Aglity +5'? Do mobs have specific loot...

Wtf is with this current trend towards twitch combat in MMORPGs? I seriously can't fucking stand it, and despite how amazing this game's systems look, there's no way ill be playing it if I can't play for a 3 hour stretch without my fingers, eyes and brain bleeding from over use.

Try tribes:ascend... Game is awesome IMO

Guessing 3770k.... Iirc a buddy of mine got his to 5

#whitegirlwasted

They said fun one too many times for my liking... Who were they trying to convince?

fuuuuuuuuuck really? Thought they threw us a bone

WTF is this song playing? catchiest shit....

holy shit I have a severe geekboner right now

I waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant it

QuaidPanda in game. Level 21 Hawkeye.

Just finished the storyline at level 21 with Hawkeye. Since level 10 I have been running with at least +15% special item find. Not a single ret con device, xp potion, card, costume, or hero drop (except for the two I got for beating the story). Was probably around 15 hours of gameplay. Gonna...

Dude... What are you not understanding here... Grinding levels = progression Grinding gear = progression Therefore, grinding gear = grinding levels = progression

I understand how the levelling game could be avoided... But I'm having trouble with the why. Why do we want to avoid it? Why can't the levelling experience be meaningful and fun? One that teaches me how to play to my highest potential. One that lets me make friends and enemies along the way to...

Also, I think what we need to ask ourselves why players want to reach endgame in an MMO. Is it because raiding is fun? In my opinion, it certainly is NOT. People want to reach endgame for one reason: epeen. They want to stand in ECtunnel, or Ironforge, or where the fuck ever, and be...

Very fair, but you still haven't mentioned how one makes distinction between players of different power levels. Is raid_dragon_01 the same difficulty as raid_dragon_02? If not, does an individual need certain skills or gear to take on raid_dagon_02? If yes, isn't this just repackaged levelling...?

Pretty sure I kept a Goblin Gazughi Ring on my Druid for something like 3 years outside of raiding...

EVE's levelling system is far more of a time sink thank EQ's ever was... And if that's how you obtain skills in EQnext you can count this guy out. Also, that game's system works just fine in a predominantly pvp environment, and I am not convinced it would in a PVE one. If someone could make a...

Meh, be it a numerical level value, a title, a list of talents, or an outfit of equipment; potato, potato, tomato, tomato. You are still talking about a representation of progression for your character towards their 'max' possible power for the purpose of PVE encounter tuning/grouping. I...