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I want a giant city /urban area. Some races start in the main city, some in the cities ghetto, some (trolls) in the trash dump, evil classes underneath in the sewers, gay elves in the mansions in the nice area of town, gnomes in the side of a mountain they dug into against the orders of the...

Agreed. I hope they implement some sort of character background system or something like GW2 where you can choose to just be an average dude who has heard about the essences of fallen heroes and you may (or may not) want to go steal some power for yourself. Or maybe even a system where you may...

You'd also probably be bitching if I quoted your whole dumb post just to make one sentence pointing out how dumb it was. Just because you say you're fine with something, or even if I agree, doesn't mean the point you were making wasn't dumb. And I'm not saying you're dumb. Just the dumb...

One of the problems with EQ is that many mechanics were so convoluted and hidden. It made no sense that dual wield was fucked, so you can't really blame players. The game needs to at least give players a chance by having what should make sense and what is even advertised as making sense to...

Which is why I'm in favor of regional chat. In a zoned game, I think that zone should be the widest area of chat outside of guild chat. That way, if you're spamming that you're lfg, you're at least doing it with some level of relevance. I also think limiting chat to being regional or zone...

This is about the dumbest set of assumptions I've ever seen. Thanks Zaven for pointing it out again. Unless you've got some sort of insider research going on, Dumar, I'm calling bullshit. I could just as easily say a LFG window lets people advertise they're lfg without having to worry...

Who else is there to reach out to? I'm thinking they're about to the point they'll have to offer reach arounds.

You're wrong. First, it starts with allowing any chat beyond /say, then a LFG channel, then everything else that ruins everything EVAR!!! So, I think we can all agree: /say should be the only form of chat. It's the only way to keep the game from being turned into a WoW clone!

I agree. You shouldn't also be able to just /invite someone if they aren't within arms reach. The person should have to run to your group, find you, and then you should have to shake hands like real men do before going into battle. And the UI shouldn't tell you who you're grouped with...

The LFG window you can keep playing the game and not have to make spamming chat your full time job until you find a group or replacement.

LFG tool and regional chat. Or no LFG tool and global chat.

This is where they're starting to make promises they can't keep. They want a large world. They want regional markets. They want players to participate meaningfully in their group-focused game in 1-2 hour chunks. Something will have to give. My guess is regional AHs, because it's the only...

Apparently Project 99 is going to offer some sort of system where more Pantheon gets funded, the more benefits players on the P99 servers get. Including a system where you get P99 rewards for pledging... so rewards from Pantheon and pledge tiers for P99 as well. RMT may fund Pantheon...

Same ol same ol, really. Pretty good chat, but nothing really new. Only half listening to it, though.

So, a class can either have ONE major aspect that defines them, or nothing that defines them at all? Again, this reminds me of the fucking mouth breathing retards who ranted in Vanguard because they felt nobody but them playing a cleric should ever be allowed to heal a group. Why? Because...

What's reaching? You don't even argue a point, because I wasn't even arguing something. Just pointing out people can't assume it would work for Pantheon because it was in EQ. Yeah, both EQ and Pantheon will have servers. No shit. Pantheon is going to be niche, meaning they'll need to be...

Can you literally not think in terms other than one extreme or the other? Honest question.

Are you fucking trolling? Holy shit, dude, you've lost your fucking mind over this issue. I'm guessing an enchanter would still be wanted for a group for the same reasons they'd have been wanted for a group even without KEI. The notion that the only reason a class is wanted in a group or...

If serious, you're not very smart because the thing you said is dumb. If trolling, you're not very smart, because the thing you said is too dumb to be fooled into taking seriously. Either way, it makes you dumb. Maybe the trolling is in the fact you're smart enough to differentiate...

So, you want the nut-kicking mechanic that you personally benefited from directly in EQ, but not others that you didn't? How about adding other things that make druids and wizards unique, instead of their uniqueness being marginalized to the point of being of little use more than as a port...

Two of each dungeon? Yeah, that's why these mechanics kinda worked in EQ. At one point, you were funneled into a very small range of possible things to do. You could log out in Guk because you pretty much knew there'd be a group there and you had a shot at getting lucky. If you logged out in...

We agree. There should be variety. Because variety is a way to create balance in a way that doesn't kick some players in the nuts on most occasions. The extremes of EQ also created balance, but it was balance by way of someone else being kicked in the nuts, and while sometimes good, sometimes...

And to get the scroll made they have to find a player with a paper mill, who has to contract out a lumberjack, who has to hire a druid to talk to appease the local wildlife, who have to convenence a council of woodland critters to decide if they're going to fight for the tree or not...

Some people think this is the only way to create a game that has a meaningful community, though.

What was great for EQ isn't going to be great for a niche, small-scale, probably small population project like Pantheon. Even still, in another post I mentioned how there has to be a spectrum for travel, even to the point of some places that DO require certain classes to access. I guess that's...

I agree. No binding until you find a caster to bind you! All in favor, say aye!

What if they just designed the game smarter, not retarder? Instead of EQ, where you would very often be fucked if you couldn't solo and there weren't people on to group, or they wouldn't wait 30 minutes for you to possible make it there alive, or you weren't the exact right class, etc... what...

The problem is some people are so damaged from playing a wizard or druid in EQ they're so terrified of having something they don't even have taken away they can't seem to accept the things that may be given to them. Like I said, is ANYONE arguing that everyone should be allowed to port? Is...

Fuck yeah, man, I agree. If fuckers want to bind themselves, they can roll a caster! If assholes want the convenience of travel, they can find 7 other players to go with them! Because the only way to make a game that isn't GW2 or WoW is to make a game so hardcore your description isn't even...

This is huge for me. I think the best and perhaps only way for Pantheon to succeed in creating any sense of community is to design places for players to congregate. The logical place is cities. No reason a noob should start in the same city mid levels come back to sell their wares, which is...

EQ like is fine. The isolated instances that are hotly debated are hotly debated because they stemmed from a systematic failure in the core game mechanics. 99% of the class interdependency in EQ isn't a topic of debate, because it was just fine. It's the few isolated incidents that are...

Has anyone actually argued for an auto-grouping or instant-travel LFG system? I see a lot of arguing against it...

Yet, the porters who were assholes and required payment up front still got paid for their ports, reputation or not. Because, while I loved EQ for what it was, what it was was a collection of mechanics that I think were flawed and led to too many nights where you weren't allowed to play the game...

Or they could just fix base mechanics so you don't have an entire caster player-base dependent on one spell? Or an entire non-porting player-base dependent on two classes? Etc. I don't think these thing were the problem, just the symptom. If you have people not willing to play the game...

I'm guessing this means the enchanter will have a spell that forces everyone nearby to hip-hop dance.

That still cheats the lowly wizard who is forced to solo and getting 'donations' for ports is their only means of feeding their family! How about there are wizard spires that anyone can use, for a fee, and instead of that fee being eaten by the game, a portion of it gets distributed among...

And how many druids would port you if you said you weren't going to offer a donation or port you ever again if you stiffed them? Call it a donation, fee, or price of purchase, either way it was a thing pretty unique to a very small percentage of the population and became something often seen as...

Thought that was interesting. Still, until they verify which of the subclasses is going to be the dual parry-dagger wielding rogue tank, I'm out and pulling my pledge!

I think it's funny because if a ranger was trying to charge for SoW, or better yet stand around selling it, they'd be seen as an anti-social greedy asshole... at least in my circle of friends at the time. Yet, a druid or wizard was usually already seen as an antisocial greedy asshole, so we...

I don't like you, but this was pretty funny to me too. From my perspective, I played mostly with guildies where ports really weren't a problem, KEI wasn't an issue, etc. There was usually someone on, or someone had a buff bot somewhere to log in. As a result of that, though, when I saw...