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Freelancer 2 or bust.

'Failure' is a tough call to make in the MMO world. WoW fucked up the metric so badly that every other MMO is technically a 'Failure' using their metrics. Player opinions are so subjective that they really are useless, except when overwhelmingly on one side or another. So the only true metric...

Ahh.. no. Bought the super powered overpriced collection edition and still feel I got more than my money's worth. Had a few months of play and enjoyed it. Then didn't. Pretty much like most mmo's, Korean or not. Each has their issues. The grind to get to PvP is what killed BDO for me. Fix that...

Finally got around to reading this thread. Man did the I thought they were lost memories kick in, much more so than the EQ, I remember when thread. Wasn't a part of FoH. But everyone on the bleeding edge back then followed Furor and tried desperately to beat him with world firsts, etc. We...

So much to like about this game and so much meh at the same time. Combat mechanics - A+ ..... Mob mechanics - F Graphics - A+ .... In game gear drop looks - F Guild vs Guild PvP - A .... Pay to Win PvP - F The grind - FFFFFFFFFUCKIT I'm outa' here.

EQ - first mmo. First toon - level 6 rogue that spent his days training the entrance to Blackburrow. GM showed up and kindly told me to knock it off. So many players hated that rogue, had to delete it. First lesson in EQ - Rep mattered. Started a ShadowKnight and kept on truckin. Top guilds...

Think a lot of people are hoping that this or Crowfall will deliver the rvr goods. Daoc is old and the current options are lame.

3 Faction RvR (no PvE) from Mark Jacobs Camelot Unchained reddit twitch BETA 1 started (7/31/18) Basic systems, 3 classes. Beta 2 in 6 to 9 months Beta Vid (7/24/18 gameplay) Overview as of Oct 2017 Cube (world building tools) Aug 2018 News Letter _ edit Aug 2018: Beta 1

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Living World Season 3 is decent. Not much of it. But a nice addition. New zone is cool.

I generally don't like GW2's story stuff but have been finishing up the season 2 for the mastery points and actually enjoyed some of it. It's worth it imo with the discount.

HoT really isn't that bad as a solo player as long as you have decent gear (exotics is fine) and know how to dodge / step out of the fire (red ring) etc. Each zone gets a bit tougher though. The roughest part of Verdant Brink is just figuring out the glider maze up top. Most of the hero points...

Right after HoT, wvw was deserted on pretty much every server. But a couple of months ago ANET focused on fixing WvW and it's payed off for them. A lot of players have come back and many servers have queues, even in mid week (NA). There are still a ton of issues, some of them basic to the...

I'd like to play that game too. Star Citizen may end up being the next sliced bread but not any time soon. Just a question, is there a modern Freelancer type game around that people like? Something to play while we wait on Chris to spend his millions. I have Elite, not that one.

Or Enchanter or Feign Death. Bard, Enchanter and Feign Death. Every fukn mmo has missed the glory of those ideas. Their loss, our loss, and the sum of the world is less because of it.

Ugg... "My neckbeard is itchin".. the rerolled theme song. Sorry guys (and gals), we are all neckbeards. Once you touch an mmo you are infected.

Looking forward to Crowfall. I like what they are trying to do. Looking forward toCamelotalso. They both look great to me. Hoping at least one of these live up to their promises. I never understood the idiotic need of some people to jump and piss all over a game just because they are...

Wrong. 2 faction pvp has never worked well. 3 faction pvp hasn't been done much but when it has, it worked. I'm not against ffa pvp mmos, they can be fun and exciting. Eve is a testament to that. But generally ffa pvp mmos fail hard after the first couple months of fun. They are much...

In mmo's that is true, because most mmo's reward players with no lives and minimize skill. FFA FPS games are extremely popular but everyone for the most part is on a level playing field and skill has more importance. And don't bomb me with "skillz matters in mmo's" responses. Of course it...

Most of this crowd has been around the block enough times to see through that crap. But everyone can be fooled occasionally (apologies to Lincoln for the steal).

BDO's pvp is pretty cool, too bad it is hidden behind a fuckwall of pve grinding.

I always thought something like EQ's Velious faction system (with modifications) would work for RvR. Each faction had benefits, and it was a real pain to change sides for most players. There were ways to speed up faction change in Velious, but that would be easy to fix in an RvR game.

Are there any 2 faction games that didn't fail in the RvR arena? I don't recall. They may be very successful at PvE (WoW), but not in RvR. WarHammer and Aion were great games at first, but then the masses joined the winning side and the RvR fun ended. Aion still limps along but it's RvR is...

The gliding is pretty cool and the elites are required if you want to do any serious pvp or raids, for that you'll need the expansion. But other than that HoT is a pretty serious let down. If you are casual and not interested in pvp, wvw or raids, HoT is probably a pass.

It's a PvE grind game with very, very little PvP. Maybe things get better with node wars.

The popularity of classic servers for both EQ and WoW indicates that there may be a much bigger market for the old school rule sets they represent than anyone realizes. BDO taps into that a little bit. But until somebody actually makes a game that satisfies that itch, it's all conjecture...

Pretty much. Too much grinding to get to the good stuff. Although I did find the pve enjoyable, love the combat. So I'll probably go back occasionally just to putz around doing that. But I'll never have the time to grind for the +20, gear, etc. needed to be competitive in GvG.

Welcome to Hollywood.

Not at all. Played both games and enjoyed them. EQ more, but it was my first mmo. But they are were very similar when Vanilla WoW came out, Much more so than the competition.

WoW and EQ are inbred cousins compared to other mmos. WoW is just younger and had the advantage of modern medicine that has changed it over time. EQ was thrown into the back shed and forgotten.

BnS and BDO have much better combat. But GW2's not bad. GW2 has better RvR imo (except when they do stupid things like HoT) and almost zero grinding if you want to just PvP or RvR. There are certainly better games than GW2 depending on what you want to do, but unfortunately the grind always...

Read something the other day by a poster named Pensiiv on the GW2wvw.net forums. Thought it might put this whole idiotic conversation into proper perspective: xD

No, you never played EQ in first person. So are clueless to it's possibilities. Having been there and done it. I know, you don't. Pretty pointless now I suppose. Since that game doesn't exist anymore. But I do find it very revealing.

Heheh. So true, and guilty as charged. EQ for life! Or as Draegan would say.. !FOR THE NECKBEARDS!

Now you're just trollin'. You obviously never played tank at a very high level in early EQ. I could see a warrior perhaps using 3rd person while tanking a boss in the corner with defensive, but they had a boring job anyways. Or a slow group too afraid to pull multiple mobs while stuck in "one...

I had very good situation awareness in first person and always was aware of adds before anyone else, had them tagged and agroed before they hit anyone else. I was recruited by the top guild on the server (did not have to apply) because of my abilities as a tank (and also a puller). Remember...

Tank here. Sk tank in the days when Shadowknights caused an xp hit for the whole group. But my rep was such that nobody cared. I had instant group invites when I logged in (miss the days when server rep mattered). That rep also got me into the top guild where I was the prime trash tank, which...

Well Quake 2 and all of it's mods were as fast food as you can get. Give me frys with my fucking quarter pounder and take my fucking money. Overwatch will probably suck, but if it gives me some of that fast food quake love I'm in. Still hate Blizzard's retard art style though.

Watched this video just for the spicy Titan details... fail. But they did sucker me into being interested in Overwatch, don't usually get that into Blizzard games or follow them. They're well done, just not my cup of joe. But all their talk about coming from fps games, rocket jumps, old...