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The "issues" they say they are fixing are exactly the gameplay elements that made EQ interesting. EQN will suck, guaranteed. They are so heavily invested in fixing "Denial of service" issues that they have forgotten that that is what EQ was about.

They keep pumping out mmos faster than the audience expands. Back when WoW first came out you could count the number of mmo's on one hand. Now there are probably hundreds. The industry is fine, but the competition is fierce now. You can't get away with the crap EQ and WoW pulled back in the day.

So have the server issues been worked out? Been too busy lately to buy the game, but have a little bit of free time coming up next week and would like to try it. My nephew swears FFXIV is the best thing since... well, he really isn't old enough to have experienced many good mmo's. But he...

"Denial of service" is just the SoE dev's excuse for being pussies. They are clueless idiots. A game without "Denial of service" of some sort is a boring and pathetic game, just like all the boring and pathetic games that have come out recently. EQN is doomed because the devs castrated...

I guess you missed the recent FFXIV launch. Theme park mmo's will always be around. There is a large market of people who like to have their hand held while adventuring. The problem is that the theme park market is over saturated and mmo devs have been cutting the pie into smaller and smaller...

24/7 about a game with no real info or progress just shows how desperate we all are for EQ. I hate being that guy. This thread grows and grows but the EQ devs have still revealed basically nothing but hot air and empty promises. Been too busy to keep up with the never ending page turning in...

Frankly, I really don't care what kind of cash shop F2P or Sub games have. The reason being is that the market will weed them out. If I think a game is P2W , Runes of Magic is a good example, then I stop playing it. So do most players. Some idiots will stick around and pay the short sighted devs...

The herd is all in an uproar over this game, no doubt about it. But I very rarely listen to the herd, they are wrong more often than not. My point was simple, if after it's released, people actually enjoy the game when they play it, then all of this pathetic hand wringing will mean nothing. I...

Proud graduates of the Paul Barnett School of Bullshit.

True, but the reverse also holds. If at the end of the day the game is fun and keeps people playing for months, then all the bunched up panties in this thread won't mean a thing.

The show is pretty good and as of now it has been renewed for a second season. Nothing is set in stone obviously but I don't see why they would drop it. Still haven't played the game.

Being able to see everything kills the mystery. Being stuck in one corner for eight hours is a bit much, but that doesn't mean that every player should beentitledto see and do everything in a game. And especially not on cruise control.

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I'm not necessarily against this mechanic, especially with destructible voxel tech. Collision detection is almost mandatory if you want to get rid of taunt, and taunt is a very cheesy mechanic. I would like to see more realism in game combat and blocking a doorway is much more realistic than...

Excellent post and also a perfect explanation of why EQ favored grouping over individuals (as in WoW etc). Raiding in EQ was as much about managing very large groups of people as it was about knowing your class, if not more so. WoW and its successors are all about getting together a medium to...

Blah, blah, blah. Did you get to 60 in a day when you played EQ? A week? A month? Or 6 months? Did you solo a dragon? It was possible, but not by very many. Did you awaken the sleeper? Did you kill him? Piss off.

And if you read my post again you'll notice I'm talking about their state of mind. Not if they are right or not. Those same people have the same state of mind that you do. You are all blinded by WoW. It's fucking pathetic, especially since you keep making the same mistakes over and over again...

Yeah. I've even had that argument with him just a couple days ago and he conveniently forgets it now. It's pathetic.

No, that's YOUR strategy. You have no proof that a hardcore game like EQ3 would fail. But we have tons of face roll mmos that have failed to show as proof. So I ask again. There are a ton of casual mmo failures out there. Why do you want another one?

Lol, go back and read this thread again from the beginning. You are wrong. And since you are wrong, you should probably just go back to your casual fuck wit game and face roll your way to winning. Face roll games are doomed to failure. Why do you want another one?

That has been answered many times. And you refuse to acknowledge that. You can have a hardcore game with modern features. The real issues is that there are pussies who really don't want to play anything other than WoW, and those same pussies then tell everyone we have to do the same. Well, we...

I think the better question is why does the MMO dev community keep making face roll WoW clones that fail? Why do people think that another one wont? There is plenty of proof that casual play games fail all the time. WoW is the only exception. And the clueless twits who claim that there isn't...

In your opinion. And plenty of facts have shown that your opinion is shit.

Win powerball, hire Brad, make EQ3..... so easy.

EQ and Vanguard recently gave up on selling classes (I imagine EQ2 did too). SoE said they learned their lesson and that selling classes / races didnt' work. Can't see them forgetting that lesson in EQN.

Someday somebody will make a EvE / Dark Souls / EQ hybrid. I don't think it will be SoE though.

Yeah, Keith's art is amazing. Makes all the cartoons look like forgettable drek. He left us way too soon.

I said I thought the artists were talented. You must have missed it, in spite of the fact that it was in almost every post of mine about the subject.

Well they can just limit the raid size in the ui. And limit loot rights to those in the main force that kills it.

Snow white isn't crappy art. Those were some of the most talented artists of the times. They worked on cartoons for cheap because of the depression. Scooby Doo sucked just as bad then as it does now. All you have proven is that you don't have an eye for artistic talent. Edit: This is...

WoW's graphics didn't age well and that is why they are updating them. It works both ways. Get a clue.

The cartoon graphics of games 14 years ago didn't age well either. Even WoW is updating their cartoon models with more polygons to make it more current and it isn't 14 years old. PS2's realism looks very good now and will look just as good in 14 years as a cartoon made now, assuming the same...

I just played HL2 and did the ahievements (stupid steam thing). I was amazed how good it still looked. And I would much rather play that than some idiot cartoon. But that is my personal preference, other people feel differently. You need to recognize that your judgement is subjective in this...

Your preference doesn't invalidate my statement. What you are saying is that all cartoons are better than all realistic art. Of course you are wrong. It is the quality of the art, not the style that matters. There are quality realistic graphics and there are quality cartoons, both are made by...

They just don't know what they are talking about. You are right, realistic graphics can age just as well if the artists who do the work are good. It is the artist's talent that decides longevity, not the style of the art. There is plenty of crappy cartoon art out there I don't like...

Remember the term "Denial of Service". That is their excuse for not having systems in place that make it hard for a player to log in and instantly do whatever they want.... or in other words "Don't piss off the casuals". Required grouping will not be a part of EQNext.

?... Horizontal progression doesn't make it instantly a social game. You are putting a lot of faith into their hype, when they haven't shown us anything but a couple of cartoons. I like the voxel tech and Landmark could be cool. They had something to show there. But EQNext isn't anything more...

Anyone can say that crap. Do you actually believe they will deliver it? Social interaction in EQ happened because you had to group up to do the content. Soloing wasn't a real option for most players. EQNext will be a solo friendly game and you know it.

I'm not against horizontal progression, I like the idea actually. But it doesn't mean much when all the content is easy. And EQNext does have levels of a sort. They call them Tiers though. You wont be able to do Tier 5 content when you first start out. You'll need good gear and abilities...

It will be a long time before SoE makes EQ3, if ever. And that will take new talent. The people at SoE now are pussies. They have to retire or get fired before anything like EQ3 is made. It's funny too. Geogeson made all that fuss about EvE and then turned around and ran away from it as fast...