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Government does that all the time. In the case of abortion clinics they at least leave a out for clinics to comply with regulations and stay open.

Where did I ever say I support those regulation. I said government has clearly established the legal right to do so. You know the same government I told I don't like. You guys are the delusional people that don't see the link between government forcing a bushiness to make a gay wedding cake...

I don't hate gay people I hate the government. Really you people are some dense mother fuckers if you havent figured that out yet.

How is any of the above relevant to government imposing safety regulation upon abortion clinics?

Dude stop quoting me if you're just going to ignore what I said right above the part you quoted. And yes government does impose regulations many time with secondary stated and unstated intent to shut down businesses. Casino's, gun stores, bars, liquor tobacco stores, all commercial stores in...

Thread is inherently about governmental power of regulation. Safety regulation on abortion clinic arn't about abortion ether there about safety and governmental power to impose them. I admire the abortion clinics taking a absolutist libertarian stance but they're most likely to lose. The...

Seems like a valid reason to over turn that requirement for that clinic then.

So was it case of being turned down because they don't like abortion are a case of clinic staff not meeting requirements to be given admitting privileges. That if we have a actual case where the clinics tried to getting admitting privledge and were turned down.

Again i want a example of a abortion clinic shut because it could not get emergency admitting to a local hospital in order to comply with the new safety regulations. I'ts a important point in my view if regulation create a impossible to comply with situation for a clinic or if they just cost...

That clinic was not shut down because it couldn't get admitting privileges at a hospital it was closed because it existing facility didn't meet new safety codes. They are also in process of building a new facility that meets the new code. I actually doubt a hospital could legally refuse to...

Do you have any examples of clinics that have closed down because of what you say? I was of the view that it was more of a case of regulation to improve safety clinics and drive up costs of abortions.

No you just put a line on hiring questionnaire that says do you have any moral objection to treating certain types of patients? Then if they say yes they do you don't hire them if the position would put them in contact with those they object to. Are you just don't hire them at all. If a...

Because the person may die are suffer serious injury if denied medical services in a emergency. While in a non emergency they can find another provider who will likely give far better service then a person who hates you by default because of there religious views. As for your gay couple...

The quotes you just posted don't seem support your claims on Wormies position.

Ill take your word for it,

Who exactly was making that argument?

I would agree again with you. A wedding photographer refusing to take pictures of a gay wedding is almost certainly what led to Indiana law. The case started a movement for changing state laws to allow for a religious exemption to providing certain services. Supreme Court won't hear case...

Double post.

What if a person who takes wedding pictures for a living doesn't want to take pictures of a gay wedding because that doesn't fit there definition of a wedding they want to take pictures for. Just as the baker you used as a analogy doesn't want to make red velvet cakes.

We agree but what if your recipe for taking wedding pictures involves one female bride and one male groom?

I think I've explained it enough in prior pots. I really don't feel the need to correct your miss assumptions if your not even going to try and follow what in prior posts clearly I clearly laid out.

I don't make cakes for a living bro. Its just a analogy bro.

I would agree is it was a generic cake but ether the god hates or god loves cakes if they were not in accordance with my beliefs I would simply refuse to bake.

Nope

From a person who doesn't think government forcing you to do something actually counts as forcing them to do something your logic makes perfect.

I would happly make a god loves fags cake and a god hate fags cake for small fee with no problems. I am opposed to being told I have to make ether cake. If my views are no longer valid then individual freedom and rights or dead as well.

I have a right to bake cakes, I have a right to sale cakes, I have a right to not bake a cake for you. Deal with it.

Slightly is reason enough to not infringe at all.

So what your saying is you are completely willing to shit upon individual freedom in order to promote the causes you believe in?

You're completely clueless. Go back and read the thread I was responding to a post clearly talking about why there is a clear difference between race and gender and homosexuality. How does a business not baking you a cake remove your individual freedom. Basic rules are that your freedoms...

You really think that's a better option?

Yeah so what your saying fuck individual rights.

In other words you three simply don't have a answer. When government forces a restaurant to serve blacks when they require banks to give loans to women they are using governmental power to force people to do what they want. Don't try and pretend they're not because they are clearly doing so...

Where did I ever say it was ok? If government forces you to do business with someone you disprove of how that is not forcing you to accept them?

I think the difference is race is not something a person can choose to just not talk about and as a result no one will know there not a certain race. We could take all the anonymous posts here and link them to individual real life people. The results would be very negative for some people...

I thought they only did that to others wherein costumes. Did you have a traumatic experience with a furry in your days as a high school mascot days?

Never understood the furry hate except as a internet joke. Is furry hate even a real thing?

Who exactly is wanting to shove people into ovens in 2015?

Well I'm conflicted here in that I think both sides have valid points. Compelling people to make a god hates fags cake or a dick shaped pizza because your civil rights will be offended if they don't is wrong. At same time time we don't want to have people being denied service in restaurants...