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We don't know because our common ancestor was a monkey-lemur from a hundred million years ago. You have absolutely no idea what instincts were gained and what instincts were lost in the long fucking parade from monkey-lemur to human being and how that is the same or how it is different from the...

Mist already has a pussy. She doesn't need another one.

It doesn't count as using science to back up your stance when you just say "science says" or "science has proven" like you are quoting from the New Testament.

Here is what you need to do. You need to take every single piece of research that has started with assumption that we know what the instincts of the monkey-lemur ancestor we share with chimpanzees are because we can observe chimpanzees and stop acting like it's not just the current best guesses...

I personally don't care about the particulars of whatever opposition argument Mist feels like she's refuting. I'm trying to hit home that the very nature of this kind of research requires a great deal of assumptions to even get started. I'm not willing to accept the idea that we can say much if...

You weakening your own position by revealing the critically flawed assumptions at the foundation of your arguments actually does make the opposing argument stronger.

Time to move further west or further north.

Too much Monster, not enough The Graduate.

That guy can go fuck himself. Older women are sexy.

I wish there was a good way to make this an avatar while preserving context.

Hey, I agree! So let's start by not pretending like we know what is socially driven and what is biologically driven and acting like that there is no dispute and that all of this is bedrock science when what we are doing is comparing two species that have been on a different evolutionary path for...

You are saying flatly wrong things again. One-hundred percent completely fucking wrong things. The very idea that you can look at chimps today and say they are like our monkey-lemur ancestors from a few hundred million years ago is absurd.

Chimps have millions of years of evolution along a different path. Their closest ancestors have millions of years along a different evolutionary path. You can't come to those conclusions. At all.

Mist has gone and confused the primates of today that we can observe with the ancestors we share with those primates from hundreds of millions of years ago. We have no way of knowing what instincts were present in early humans and how those instincts changed over time. We have no way of...

No, we don't.

She's got a bachelor's in psychology and she doesn't need to take shit from a fuckingprivlike you.

Your lizard brain and your monkey brain don't just sit in the back seat while you make choices.

Did you really just post four times in a fucking row.

In the campaign I was running I had a set of painted wood tiles color coded for each player. Who is the Ranger's Quarry? The dude standing on the green tile. The players tracked all their own shit. It was easy for everyone to look at the map and know who had what going on who. Status effects...

See Tanoomba, this is why you are the wrong side. At the first opportunity Mist threw you under the bus and claimed the entire thread was about her when you put in tons and tons of work on her behalf. Cad and Tanoomba arguing for literally two fucking weeks about the law? THREAD IS ALL ABOUT ME...

Yes, the last 191 pages have been all about you.

It's not her position. Her position is that societal normal are what dictate our behavior. Your position is that our biological forces dictate what eventually become societal normals.

You are out of your goddamned mind.

Wait, so are you claiming that only gendered behavior falls along your monkey see monkey do ideology? Yea, she was doing that yesterday to.

edit - damn it, no good way to do what I wanted to do now

It's a set of ideas that reinforce the worldview she already has. There's not really anything to talk about. The only reason I keep posting is because every few days Mist will pass of something truly batshit crazy like its an obvious truth and I'm given this glimpse into the world she lives in...

I'm tired of men being the dominate force in logging, fishing, roofing, garbage collection, and construction. Why are there not more women steel workers? It's time to start a national program to give incentives for women to enter into the deadliest industries. Wait, women just don't want to...

Welcome to the thread, enjoy your stay. You are now officially caught up over 190 pages.

Those charts are from the study that you yourself cited as evidence but did not bother to read.

Mist's really just a good ol' Catholic girl at heart. We are different than the animals because God made us different.

Why this of course. Took you five whole days to show back up again.

Oh don't give me that. You fucking never bother to track anything down on any topic. The one time the stars aligned you misread what you were citing and hid for a week.

You know what, you've fucking lost your science privileges. You've been using the phrase "science has shown" like a priest talks about Jesus. "Jesus tells us that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle etc. etc. etc." I bet if I went back and took a drink every time you...

You don't really understand my point. There was a time when there wasn't anything special thought of breast milk. Scientists didn't find any evidence it had additional benefits. Not finding evidence of its benefits is different than finding evidence it has no benefits but the one was treated...

Have you considered Mist's position that no, no they do not? That the only trait passed on is that boys copy men and girls copy women?

I just want to go back to this earlier statement at the start of the day where you plainly stated that there are significant differences in the older areas of the human brain between genders at birth and now you've said that there are some differences even at birth in the more recently evolved...

The human brain is solved. Everyone pack it up.

It's a soft science that people like Mist have latched on to as a means with which to upend society. It's all fine and dandy to have a conversation on a message board but she would put base legislation on her opinions. She's dangerous and she doesn't care who would be hurt provided others...

Wait, what? If they did default to modeling female behavior than they would not end up lost and aimless in young adulthood? That's absolute gibberish. We learn different things from each parent and when one is absent and there are no substitutes the child suffers. Taking up the gender traits of...