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Forget ukraine for a second, let's just establish the joe biden helped his son in a myriad of other ways with money while he was vp https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/hunter-biden-linked-company-received-130m-in-special-federal-loans-while-joe-biden-was-vp

that's why it's untoward complication that should have waited, that article is stripped of proper context that xi xinping personally asked trump to intervene in zte, partially to save face because the company is located in xi's birthplace. zte's being used as a bargaining chip in trade wars...

I'm gonna get the lastword, you can't stop me

patents on things she already makes is totes the same as receiving billions of dollars for doing nothing, no difference at all I agree even that is untoward, should have waited. but not the same ballpark in any way shape or form

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/john-kerrys-son-cut-business-ties-with-hunter-biden-over-ukrainian-oil-deal

forget ukraine for a second, let's see if we can establish biden was involved in influence peddling via his son elsewhere, this would indicate plausibility in ukraine https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/politics/hunter-biden-china.html

No but it sets the stage for a period of time when corrupt actors would have sought to buy influence in US politics like biden

is it? it emboldened putin to take crimea and create a vassal state in novorussia, how was this in the national interest? maybe they were too busy collecting protection money to do a good job and gave russia what they wanted.

was it 100%? warmongers often profiteer off their warmongering, that's a large reason why such things happen, they create winners and losers. if cia engineers a coup in ukraine and oligrachs start paying our politicians protection money to people in charge like giving the son of the guy who was...

i'm just trying to establish that nazi militia's did exist and where a central part of the coup that happened in ukraine and the US backed them, all things you deny'd at various points, now you're just moving the goalposts, now that' i've provided evidence beyond hearsay and appealing to authority

oh look you found away to ignore evidence, i'm not evidencing "racial realism" i'm evidencing nazi's where manipulated by cia to engineer coup in ukraine, you continually deny existence of nazi's in ukraine so first we have to establish nazi militia's such as azov batallion did infact exist...

yeah you like helping nazi's right? you liked this happened with your tax dollars in your name? https://www.thenation.com/article/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/

are you a trained professional? no

whose of in non sequitor land now? you're not a doctor you can stop pretending you are remotely qualified to abusing medical books with your amateur bafoonery

unless you've spammed the entirety of the DSM manual in this thread I personally will be disappointed.

I know you don't any information that contradicts what you want to hear is stuff you ignore, that much has been clear from the start, that's also why you vehemetly oppose investigating anything involving biden and ukraine, a country that clearly had cia action involved in it in the period...

Trump attacked the one party "bipartisan consensus on foreign policy" to the core, the nato people especially freaked out about trump, the nato think tank atlantic council keeps coming up over and over again as a nexus for all the people you keep linking saying "trump is bad". It's funny how you...

svboda party in ukraine, the one that the obama admin backed during the coup, look them up sometime, they liason with miltia groups, look who they revere and honor a literal SS officer

someones getting ahead of themselves, I found a bbc article that quotes nytimes behind their paywall, it's in the "investigating" stage, that literally means nothing

not weird at all, they're all politically motivated to damage trump, that much is obvious, nobody gets the treatment in washington that these marked men do, if they DID then washington wouldn't be nearly as corrupt

no what biden did is worse, he helped cia takeout ukraine government with nazi militia's that enabled the chaos and embolded putin to take advantage of said chaos to take ukraine. biden is a root cause of the problem with ukraine

if he did anything and manhatten DA can prove it, it reflects very poorly on guiliani, given the multitude of boistrous claims and overstepping of bounds by manhatten DA in last several years nobody should hold their breath

headline indicates there was no business done, guiliani was corrupt because he provided to service to one client while doing nothing with another one?

asking you for facts is not evidence of not caring about facts, it's the opposite, i'm asking for more facts, what is the charge I can't figure it out based on information provided, what is the corruption? just cause you throw around a word doesn't mean you justified the use of the word, i'm...

you sure seem to get really mad when people suggest investigating what a public official did who also helped the cia engineer a regime change with nazi militia's nothing irregular about that

what did being paid for a service corrupt again? what did they get in return that made it corrupt?

says the guy who just spent 10 pages sperging out that investigating corruption involving biden is wrong

also hodj: " I don't care if the people that would testify to this effect are barred by democrats from testifying"

if you keep repeating this mantra it must be true!

I have yet to see integrity in you so why should I think you're some kind of expert who knows what you're talking about there?

misleading statement that is not neutral and presumes an answer that also requires mindreading on your part, evidence also suggests legitimate reason to look into corruption in persuit of lost US taxpayer dollars, previous regimes public servants heavily involved in area at time, it's in the...

directly relevent to style of debate you are using right now, witness testimony without physical evidence leads to witch trials like in salem

when they vote for a real impeachment and not a fake one then they can bypass executive privilege and not this kangaroo court we have now.

They just did that this year, I wonder what happened this year that prompted that action. also why where the cases shut down to begin with when shokin was verifiably persuing burisma (and privat bank the real target of corruption) before he was fired

oh but the denied witnesses you don't want to hear from them, just the ones you can potentially trap sophistry grade d+

How many people in history have claimed to see or hear from god? do you listen to them in blind faith without physical evidence?

there was many other witnesses requested that are denied volker also said alot of things that contradict democrats like aide wasn't heldup for investigation and it wasn't a probe into biden as a political stunt but about corruption you can't cherry pick what you want to hear from volker but...

plenty of people do so it's clearly false statement, it's also not evidentiary in any way shape or form, sophistry grade C-

hard to read with a paywall no reason given no identity far as I can tell, correlation and causation sophistry grade b-

he said asserting without evidence, appeal to authority sophistry grade C