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re: the spoiling from all the trailers, I'm pumped for this movei but I've stopped watching trailers for it, especially not watching that 13m one.

Which makes it most annoying that she'd trust him. You know as a kid when he was growing up he'd scheme to get candy all day long.

Honestly I saw zero people alluding to there being something nasty because of the episode name. There's a bit of a selection bias in good non-book reading theory-crafters because if someone really likes the show they'll probably read the books and even if they don't it's very dangerous to do any...

Yeah I feel the same way. He hasn't lived up to his potential. Which is funny because he came up at the same time as JJ with a similar grappling, athletic lanky type style. JJ grew into a monster and he just kind of stagnated.

Yeah I don't think many non-book readers knew what song was being played, just that there was a massive mood shift as soon as it started and Catelyn knew something was up.

I give Davis exactly zero chance. Machida has incredible TDD and he eats sloppy/slow strikers alive.

Cool idea but it looks boring and skeptical that it'll be as cool as they're hoping. It looks like people will be waving their hands around like an idiot and add stupid effects to decent songs.

dunno but reddit really fucked that whole thing up.

I'm guessing everyone knows the character whose title is "Who the fuck is that?" now

Yeah I could see how non-book readers might think Jaime was more responsible for this than he was if Roose said Jaime sent his regards.

He should've asked Quentin Tarintino or Joss Whedon for a fucking microphone that isn't tissue paper wrapped around a paperclip. Oh and that reddit thread

They'd probably wonder how they started watching spartacus.

I'll be in Vegas June 4th to June 18th, anyone want to go out for drinks? I'm more into microbrews than casinos and clubs.

They changed it for the show. In the books Catelyn pushed Eddard to go to King's Landing and pushed for Sansa to marry Joeffrey. And I think if Robb had teamed up with Stannis after Renly got cooter demoned they would've had an on-paper advantage to take KL.

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all I'm saying is that his moves were all a little too convenient for my tastes.

especially since it was Valyrian steel. Shit doesn't run around without notice.

Have you ever been on a beach with rotting animals on it?

and its acronym takes forever to type out. I even call the books I've read the game of thrones books.

I think people overestimate Littlefinger as a character. He just creates chaos and uses it to increase his position. Honestly his two biggest moves (Getting Lysa to poison Jon Aryn and tricking Catelyn into thinking Tyrion owned the dagger) were not only built on the idea that these powerful...

Am I the only person who feels a mild sense of loss when they see stuff like this? I'm no biologist but Jellyfish seem like the insects of the sea, but even still it's a massive loss of life.

Maybe, it's tough to say.

Yeah I must have forgotten that if it's true and it makes it perfectly clear. Rob should've bent the knee.

You're neglecting Kreugen's argument that Ned wouldn't have demanded splitting the 7 kingdoms. Kreugen is saying that Ned would've bent the knee to get Stannis' support. Whether that's true or not is unclear.

You're out of your mind if you think you can owe anything positive to Joeffrey. Tywin and Tyrion are the only Lannisters who are doing shit that's helping the Lannisters.

I mean that Robb sat around and diddled himself when he had a huge army and could've done something useful. His chastisement of Edmure is hypocritical since he did the same thing on a larger scale. And lol @ appeasing a fucking bannerman, without that appeasement Robb's army would've been...

Haha I was more thinking that she should know that he's a scheming fucker and should've given Ned fair warning not to trust him. He's so slimey and obvious it's comical. Especially in the TV show when the actor gets this creepy pedophile voice and starts creeping out everyone.

I just assumed Bolton and Frey knew who the winning side was going to be and just wanted to join in when they could get a good deal. And it's tough to say what Walder thinks or how bad the repercussions really will be for his acts. He's likely going to die soon and it's unknown what kind of...

Oh and I could probably blame Catelyn for Peyter Baelish's scheming in some way.

Are you arguing that Catelyn didn't make completely stupid decisions, or are you arguing that she and Rob would've totally failed and been brutally murdered even if she was completely passive? Also I remember her talking Ned into going to King's Landing which was a monumentally stupid...

Yeah I don't know what else they need Joeffrey to do to make Tenks hate him. I like his scenes just because they're very entertaining but yeah, he's a huge prick.

I forgot to post this earlier: You guys arguing about whether Catelyn or Robb screwed up more seem to be missing the point that they both screwed up horribly. Catelyn: Captured Tyrion unjustly and without merit, causing Tywin to start a war. Let Tyrion go by bringing him to her idiot...

what is this garbage. I blame tyen2.

I wouldn't worry about it so much.

The showtime and rockhold kicks were pretty good takes Probably the biggest reason it's bullshit is because any kind of signal can be delivered more subtly than a nod or a 'Jump off the wall and kick me in the face when I touch the wall with my foot!' signal.

I'm glad they didn't. With how much little content there is in an hour show any kind of foreshadowing from an animal (because animals are always right on TV) would ruin it a lot. Watching the show and knowing what happens there was almost no foreshadowing until the doors closed.

hehe, when I read that chapter I threw the book across the room and let it sit for the rest of the day.

I'm on vacation the next two weeks, so I look forward to seeing what happens while I'm gone!

Don't lie to yourself, you're watching this shit next week and in a year.