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I think Brad is going to have a hard time delivering this game in the timeframe that is required. I do not think Shroud of the Avatar looks much better but it's here now. Brad's thinking of 2-3 years from now and if that is the case, regardless of what he can accomplish in terms of money...

Typically no one would care but he's asking for money based on this "art" not to mention it has been months with a veteran team. There's a lot more than just what we are seeing, it is the fact that he's asking all of us for money and support and he is continually showing us disappointment. It...

Also.... maybe this gives hope for some people. However, I think this was done in a different time and that time has a lot to do with MMO's.

I don't know... maybe i'm just too far gone. Looks like a bad take on Diablo's interface. I get it, it's a prototype. I just don't care much for the direction. Honestly though, I can be very forgiving for appearances and all the aesthetics but I don't have a lot of confidence this game will...

But isn't this exactly what everyone wants? Some of the best moments, especially those who start up with friends, come from this stuff in these types of game. I'm glad SoE put this part of the game out there first just to let everyone know they're not going easy mode and there's going to be...

I cannot believe people are using other MMO's to argue their points. Regardless how you may draw your conclusion and leverage points from other games, it's going to be apples and oranges. If you haven't played DayZ you have no earthly clue how this game would or should work. Even then, they...

Oh does that bring back memories....

This could turn it around for Pantheon.... Seriously, this is the most interesting comment in a week or two in regards to the game. lol

Any specific parts that jump out to cause you to make this statement?

Any comparable feel to the game? UO, EQ, DAoC, WoW? Just curious.. just for UO sake i'm thinking about trying it.

So you have an option to play the MMO version of the game? In that version the world has zones each up to 100 characters before another zone is created? However you can make and Offline character or Online Solo? (Not sure why people would want that but i'm sure they do) but if you are in this...

I'm pretty shocked that someone hasn't taken an engine like Unity and developed an updated replica of EQ Classic. I know I would play it but not sure who else would or even how long. I would like to see EQ Classic remade with a couple of new ideas. I know some friends and I have discussed it...

Anyone care to elaborate on the game a bit... most people around the water cooler are saying it is but it isn't a MMO. Small write up in this month's GameInformer also categorizes it as a MMO. Has MMO become more a loose term? Who would have thought the genre would become such a mess.

Francis aka Boogie2988 has spoken... lol

I'm not going to say we "know" how much as been done but come on, the proof is in the pudding. Anyone can look at a product and tell how much time and effort has went into the given product. However, I don't think the community, at least in the beginning, was complaining about how much was...

I don't know if development mode is a lie.... depends on what they were developing. Essentially they were developing a carrot at the end of the stick and sadly, people are still following it.

What I enjoyed most from the ASM was the fight sequences seemed much more "Spider-man" to me than any others. Did they get this right in the sequel? I just happened to catch a show my son was watching that was some cartoon with Spiderman and the Avengers. It was the best take on his...

I've had 1 and I cannot begin to tell you how much I have given her.

How do I keep getting drawn into this disaster? Also, why did Salim get involved after knowing Brad from VG? Seems like history is repeating itself.

I know he was made at least Game Designer? Correct?

I'm curious to where Brad goes from here? There's no way he can ride around with this demo and documents in a backpack parading it around to gaming companies. I'm sure people have heard and probably didn't even need to hear another word. I want to know what really happened at SoE? He was...

I was just curious if there would be anything legal that these guys have vested in or not given this "break up". I wouldn't fight for anything either because it's one, not going to be worth it and secondly, there probably isn't anything worth fighting for in the long run. However, there may be...

Just curious... who "owns" Pantheon. Can they vote Brad out of the group and go make Pantheon or have they signed some type of competitive market or exclusivity contract? I'm a little confused who's money or how much was placed into this company. I'm assuming Brad is primary owner of the...

Agreed and honestly I think Brad has his place, it just isn't in the Captain's chair.

One thing I do have to say is I was surprised just how professional some of the team was on the radio show. Whoever James is (Rochelle I believe) seemed like a very nice guy on the show.

Sorry.. KTAM. Anyway, they referenced having another sit down after Brad spoke to everyone. I wonder how the "sit down" with each team member? Has anyone heard from an inside source? I'm still a little shaky when Brad mentioned how they completed what they set out to do (business plan...

Will KTAM continue to cover this game now that it is in the garbage? Just curious if we can get another night of entertainment on their radio show?

If they could not look at the KS, then their content releases post-KS, and actually think it needed any help failing they are in dire need of a dose of reality. I've been reviewing some of the Pantheon stuff since I had quit stopped following for the most part after a couple weeks after the...

That's a big part of it and is very true. The credit of EQ's success should go to the people. Everquest was just the first to make the scene and facilitate the dream of immersing yourself in that AD&D world. This is why it will never be creating. You will never get that time back or those...

No questions really. Just wanted to confirm if this felt the same to the VG devs after hearing what the Pantheon devs share their thoughts and feelings.

I'm not sure if some of the old Sigil Dev/Designers would be willing to share but I know we have a few floating around but if I remember correctly, this is a very similar tale to the end of VG.

Outside of a few comical liberties, I think that pretty well sums it up. However, there is a much greater entertainment value if you listen to the entire show. It pretty well goes like this... KTAM and Devs on their soapbox and general conversation of development and then Brad logs in and...

I'll save you the trouble... "So your game has halted production... why are you taking money?" "Because, we need to keep the web site up and I need to put gas in my, I mean, our cars." "I heard your developers hate you now and you underpaid them?" "No, we all love each other and I paid...

I have never seen anything like this in business. It nearly feels juvenile and somewhere around a High School debate/argument. I think I may go to bed on this last few minutes. It is unbelievable.

Who is talking right now going off?

No kidding... would love to go to bed but it's like a car wreck.. I can't help but watch.

Whoa.... I wasn't sure how serious to take this or how deep it ran but have all the developers pretty well just turn on Brad or more mad at the overall situation? Were they lied to or did Brad screw them over? Or is everyone just bitter that they fell into the rainbows, flowers, and roses Brad...

I knew this would be so worth it! Thanks for bringing this into reality.

Anyone remember when Brad stated that this Project pretty well was his last chance and if it didn't make his name and reputation would be shot? I think he even mentioned that he would need to work at McDonald's if this didn't fly. Cue "This is gonna rock" while wearing a McDonald's uniform meme.

This isn't good business, plain and simple. I have no hate for Brad or his game but if he cannot see how this would not receive such negative criticism he's either delusional or could care less. The line item list has been made a million times stating what went wrong and what could be done...