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Asmongold just said he thinks Blizzard made raids too hard for the health of the game starting in Cataclysm. This dude is smart!

Sucks to be you, I've got a dentist appointment instead today. Eat your heart out @Ossoi

I just wanted to know why 14k people were watching this guy level a level 6 shaman and he just now figured out via donation he accidentally rolled on the pve server. Amazing.

I can't wait to raid with this guy, his taste in humor is so superior to all of ours.

This is the kind of fun they've patched out of the game over time. Though this dragon would be nothing to level 60s, I still think it's fun. Imagine being a young hunter in Stormwind and seeing a giant raid of people go by kiting a dragon and dreaming that one day you could do something like this.

They're talking about taking it to Undercity now. Does this kinda shit ever happen on live?

I feel dirty, I made a joke on the classicwow subreddit.

The bodies are everywhere. Say whatever you want about Asmongold but his ability to get people to do shit like this is entertaining.

They're basically kiting shit with hunters, the rest of the people are basically doing nothing.

Or you could just use yer blizz privilege to server transfer from pve to pvp like a certain unnamed guild.

Tichondrius had 3 Alliance guilds and I think maybe 1 Horde guild clear Naxx in vanilla. There was definitely a lot of pve on one of the bigger pvp servers. I didn't even consider I might like raiding at all when I started playing WoW. I quit EQ in beta because I thought the pvp was garbage...

This is the story of a LOT of guilds I'd wager.

I'd also be a lot more inclined to want difficult content at the end of a raid if there was no difficulty slider. If it took 500+ attempts to kill a boss you couldn't just give up on and do on easy mode I'd be better with that. I think the game can still be hard without being ridiculous though.

What is the perfect boss difficulty for you then? They could just turn a raid into an hour long fight where you have to be perfect so no one could ever do it. Where is that line for you? What should the game be designed around? Maybe Mythic isn't hard enough?

Said it sprang to mind, you're right Muru was the hard one.

Yeah, I dunno, I think that many attempts by the top guilds in the world is just too difficult. Raids shouldn't be killing guilds difficulty level, I don't think it's good overall for the game. I realize you can do it on lower difficulties full well.

Asmongold clearly doesn't have the skill of guys like Venruki or Cdew but he's a total autist about everything in the live game and isn't a bad player by any stretch.

Nah, I stopped, but there have been plenty of cockblock raid bosses in the past no? Kil'jaeden also springs to mind.

I do think I'd rather have 20 man raids if you're also doing 10 mans. I don't understand the 25/10 split and obviously fuck difficulty sliders in an mmo. Are you really in here acting like mythic raids are harder than Heroic Rag was? First kill took over 500+ wipes.

Yes, there are a bunch of players that are anti-social incels IRL and need to be forced to interact with others to obtain loot and accomplish game goals. Making those people interact with the other social people that would interact with each other no matter what makes the community bigger and...

I did? Pointless argument, I told you what I think.

When you try to drop down from say 25 to 10 to try heroic Rag you end up pissing off people that aren't allowed in the 10 man. People quit, then you can't even do 25's anymore. Are people saying you can't design challenging 40 man content? My vanilla server had 3 Naxx clearing guilds and TONS...

Those aren't "raids," they're small group content. The less people you are forced to interact with the smaller your world becomes.

You don't want an MMO if you only want to group with 9 other people.

I guess the counter argument of barrier to entry is keeping old raids relevant but wasn't that what the 20 mans were developed for? Gear catchup? Wasn't Karazhan developed initially as a 20 man for Naxx catchup gear?

I agree it was a terrible idea, reducing guild sizes reduced the feeling of community. Reducing raids to 25/10 made no fucking sense at all, the Kara drama was fucked. What I'd like is for them to re-use content smartly, don't increase the level cap because new people coming into a game don't...

Leveling beyond 60 is one of the things that broke this game. It's pointless.

Holy shit that clip was cringe.

Is Noodles keyboard broken already? Game isn't even out yet.

Why would anyone want to play a level 30 ret paladin in classic?

This will be tough to top.

haha the salt

But won't Obama track you down? Also, will you call people retards or not, this is the most important information.

Guy seems legit, 18 posts.