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One of those opposite things I guess. Reed would get touched and be hurt his last few years in Washington.

You guys had a miracle that Reed wasn't hurt more than he was. Although I knew that would happen soon as he left Washington. Still think Hardman has a bit of a breakout year as Chiefs #2 WR next year once they move on from Watkins fully.

These divisions are just going to be insanity all year with 3 point games. You go through any prolonged stretch of not picking up points and it's going to torpedo standings. Another big game against Boston tonight.

All this would be interesting if we didn't know about the shit between Hopkins and O'Brien prior to O'Brien getting named GM, and all the shade thrown since the trade. Michael Irvin: Here’s The Real Reason Why DeAndre Hopkins Was Traded

Shanahan has wanted to reunite with Cousins for awhile. Lot of rumors before he left Washington that 49ers would give up a 1st for him.

O'Brien was head coach and GM (he literally was named GM at end of January last year, trade happened in mid March) at the time, it wasn't Easterby.

Bill O'Brien? He's gone.

I probably should have put a space between the Father Time comment and then noting that the Rams beat Brady with Goff this year. I still think Brady probably has another year or two in him, although the falloff might be dramatic when it finally does happen.

When you say haven't run out of shit to do, do you just mean running more M+ or more PVP? At this point there are plenty who have seen all 4 campaigns to their completion, finished TC, hit "exhalted" in the Maw, etc.

What goal posts? I joked that Father Time would catch up eventually. Oldest joke in the world it's literally undefeated. What are we even talking about?

Let me know when Brady is out there at age 60 :)

Father Time will eventually catch up. Also match ups are a thing, Goff led Rams beat Brady and Tampa this year.

Agree Stafford has potential to be good upgrade over Goff. Funny we had that Eli/Rivers/Big Ben/Ryan/Stafford discussion about who might get into the HoF...and now Stafford has a team that in theory, he can maybe get to a Super Bowl with in the next year or two.

At this rate, Houston will be asking for four 1sts for Watson.

It feels as all in on the next year or two as anyone can be.

I think McVay thinks with better QB he can win a Super Bowl in the next year or two. They have the defense, they have good skill position guys. But clock is ticking with so few picks to reload.

Just read Rams won't have a 1st round pick from 2017 through 2023 after this deal.

I did see some NFL exec claim the Stafford deal would be done before the Super Bowl...so someone knew what was up. Thank goodness the Football Team wasn't in this hard on Stafford. I know Watson will probably cost three 1sts plus, but I agree with you, if you're going this hard for Stafford...

Yeah, but for all the shit we talk about Goff, he's at least a starting caliber guy. They can let him tread water for them while they get ready to find their next guy, or maybe even trade him for another pick. Two 1sts and a 3rd plus a serviceable starting QB? Wtf.

Holy shit. Detroit made out like bandits to get that much.

Meanwhile the Rangers blew a lead against the Penguins to lose in OT, Flyers beat Isles in OT, and Buffalo beat the Devils in a shootout. The East is so stupid, 5 teams have 10+ points.

Welcome back, Ovi.

No pretty sure that game was always ranked shitty because it was empty stats. I do agree the stat being proprietary is stupid, though.

And yet, even looking at Lamar Jackson...last year's playoff loss to the Titans, in the end he had over 500 yards of offense, but the QBR pretty correctly rated his overall game shit with a 30.4. Not perfect by any stretch, but tries to put empty stats into context from what I've seen.

It's not that they overvalue running so much, it's that they give a lot of credit to rushing first downs. Maybe too much credit. But they also distinguish between say a 5 yards run/pass on 2nd and 5 that gets you a first down and a 10 yard gain on 3rd and 18 where the D just played soft as...

They might have found the glitch then. Most of those games at the top all make perfect sense. Not that I like being reminded of the night Vick absolutely destroyed the Washington Football team...but yeah.

Also weirdly, that isn't on this list... NFL All-Time Bests Total QBR | ESPN

Sounds like a glitch, although that is hilarious. Pretty much all of the time QBR matches the eye test for me on whether a QB actually played well or put up a lot of empty stats.

I just prefer how QBR seems to not let garbage time stats in games fool it, the way passer rating can look great b/c someone got to throw against a prevent for a full quarter/half.

QBR is the good one, you might be thinking of Passer Rating. Only brought up Brees b/c it's crazy how much his ability to throw the ball downfield died this past year or two. Meanwhile Brady has 8 seconds left against Green Bay in the 1st half and is dropping dimes for TD's still.

860 yards passing, 7 TD's 3 Int in 3 games. Total QBR 79.1. He's been pretty good overall. I do think Tampa was a pretty good team overall, but he's clearly also been guy to get them over the hump, and watching him throw the ball compared to someone like Brees was like night and day. I'm...

I mean, the game against Tampa can be viewed as a one off (they've also been the #1 D against the run 2 years in a row), as Jones was pretty great this season along with last year. But that only reinforces my point, if they're going to not want to pay Jones, but Rodgers thinks he has any real...

Obviously it takes a team, but we've also seen what a team even with great weapons can look like with an average QB and what the same/similar team looks like with another. Andy Reid knew what he was doing trading away Alex Smith to being the Pat Mahomes era. Smith had Tyreek and Kelce, hell...

I mean, if your team is going to burn their 1st round pick (along with more draft capital since they traded up) on your potential replacement, versus maybe more receiving help or other areas they could have improved, why not ask for more cash? Not to mention drafting another RB when they had...

Buddy of mine constantly gets into these "if you had to win 1 game, are you picking Rice over Megatron or Moss at WR" stuff. Rice is like the reverse era argument, in that his numbers destroy everyone else's like Gretzky's due in hockey, and he had the disadvantage of playing in era where...

I'm not sure if we're on the same page for what we're debating then. I don't think the debate between him and Montana is close at all anymore. I'm saying 6, 7 years ago whenever they beat Seattle for his 4th ring, I could understand if people still thought it was a debate. Just like if...

Well shit at this point it's not debatable. At that time 6, 7 years ago, the debate could have been had. Also Montana v. Brady number do get into the whole "eras" thing with how much passing numbers have exploded. Montana had 500+ attempts twice in his entire career, and only topped 400...

When compared to Montana? The debate then was Montana was a perfect 4-0 in SB's, Brady won his first 3 but then lost 2 in a row to Eli fucking Manning, botching the perfect season with vintage Moss on his team in the process. Then his 4th ring was more "Seattle choked" rather than he won.

I'm sure some would have, but it would still be an argument then, just like it was when Brady won his 4th against Seattle but had lost 2 to Eli and the Seattle one came after what most everyone thinks was a super terrible decision to not hand the ball off to Lynch for the easy TD. With 6...

4 out of 7 would have gotten who to where? Rodgers to Goat status? I don't think that would put anyone else to Goat status when Montana went 4 for 4. It's the fact Brady has won 6, and been to 10 now that really put him over. That and 2 of his losses he handed his D a lead with under 5...