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  1. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    I thought it was all mercenaries who abandoned him, which is why he had no cavalry left. Any of his bannermen who were still with him after all people he's burned wouldn't abandon him after he burned Shireen.
  2. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    The show writers clearly have some sort of access to Winds of Winter, otherwise they wouldn't have been saying 'dont blame us blame GRRM' after Shireen got sacrificed. The series will remain more or less consistent between the two mediums, aside from what divergences they've already started.
  3. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Her visions have all come to pass, it just seems like she misinterpreted what this one meant. Thankfully for her, unless they capture some of the mercenaries who deserted Stannis, Davos will never find out exactly what happened to Shireen.
  4. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Except they made a point of having her interrogate Thoros about how he did it, and there doesn't seem to be any doubt that she's a more powerful and faithful servant of the Red God than Thoros was. I mean, it's clearly obvious that she's going to try and bring Jon back. No clue how well it's...
  5. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Winter is coming. Not Winter is already here.
  6. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    I'm not nitpicking, Ellaria poisoning Myrcella is a major departure from the books, unless she survives it which I doubt. The wiki for the books is down today, but from what I remember, after the bit with Myrcella getting attacked in the books, Doran spoke with Arianne and brought her and the...
  7. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    The shit with Myrcella and Jaime isn't an advancement, it's a (partial?) departure from the books.
  8. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Dude, it's a journey of a couple weeks. Myrcella would be rotting to pieces by the time they got to King's Landing, someone would smell her at the very least.
  9. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Nobody would have bent the knee to Stannis even if the Robert's "children" were all dead.
  10. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Not unless he picks up some kind of closer connection to the Throne between now and Tommen's death he won't. The male line of House Baratheon is extinct when Stannis dies, unless they learn about, find, and crown Gendry. Otherwise all the normal rules go out the window and whoever has the...
  11. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    So what? I never said that having the stronger claim made you invincible, but the strength of your claim often has a lot to do with the size of the army you can raise to support/defend that claim. The Tyrells would be in the strongest position to take the throne through Margaery and the fact...
  12. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    What? Until the incest thing is actually proven, Cersei's children have a stronger claim to the throne than Stannis does. The succession is of significant importance.
  13. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    If he's not in on the plot (and Jaime has no reason to suspect him to be in on killing Myrcella because it would make zero fucking sense) then giving Jaime whatever he wants (within reason) is the best way to avoid war. If both Jaime and Myrcella die mysteriously while Jaime is on a mission to...
  14. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Trolling? That ship is turning around whether Jaime wants it to or not, because it's crewed by Prince Doran's men, like I fucking said. If they don't turn it around immediately after finding out Myrcella is dead, it would be absolutely fucking retarded, and Jaime's best bet for survival is...
  15. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Overwrought from grief at the death of his daughter right after having his first and only father/daughter moment? He was about to take that sweet thing to pound town. But seriously, the ship is half a mile from shore and crewed entirely by Prince Doran's men. If that ship doesn't turn around...
  16. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    My guess she'll become nobody, then have an Arya relapse when she gets sent on a mission into Westeros and sees someone on her list. But Needle will probably be important, either her casting it away to become nobody, or her saying fuck the faceless men and getting it back from its hiding spot to...
  17. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    If I were Jaime, I'd turn the ship around, present Myrcella's body to Doran, and tell him if he wants Trystane back in one piece, he will have all of the sand snakes brutally murdered in front of Ellaria, and Ellaria sentenced to live out the rest of her days in a cell. But I believe in a...
  18. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    It's starting to look that way. They were desperate to get away from Ramsay. Reek had been suffering from his attentions for months, Sansa was just beginning to get a taste of it. At most I'll concede their intention was to escape, but felt that dying from the fall was a perfectly acceptable...
  19. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    I'm seriously having one of those 'everyone is dumb except me' moments. It was obviously suicide, especially from the way they paused, looked each other in the eyes, and gripped hands. It was just set up in a dumb and contrived way so that they'll be alive when S6 starts.
  20. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Well I guess it's a good thing that I'm fuzzy about the details of the books, because without remembering that, it's pretty clear that they're attempting to commit suicide in that scene. Obviously they'll still be alive in Season 6, although god knows how they'll get away from Winterfell without...
  21. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    It's not a fuckup, they're attempting to commit suicide. How is this unclear to people?
  22. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    So presumably she'll recover her eyesight after an episode of seeing her bumbling around blind, then another episode or two showing her having gotten used to the blindness.
  23. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    That's a Dornish crew manning that ship. How the fuck is he going to conceal her death from all of them and Trystane for the entire ride home? It's literally him and Bronn vs every single other person on that ship.
  24. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    There is nothing in that commentary that suggests Stannis is any more dead than what was already shown in the episode. Although the dude does make a really fucking stupid comment about 'Cersei being mad when Jaime gets back'. Motherfucker, they're barely half a mile from shore, if that ship...
  25. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Obviously, what's your point? Even though they didn't show her death, there was zero ambiguity about it, Shireen is dead. I'll concede there is some vague amount of ambiguity about Syrio's death, but since he wasn't a major character and the person he was last seen fighting was still alive...
  26. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Neither Shireen nor Syria were major characters. and Shireen's death, even if her final moments weren't shown, was 100% without ambiguity.
  27. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    The show has been great. The episode was garbage, especially by the high standards of their season finales. Only good parts were Melisandre bailing on Stannis, Reek pitching Myranda off the wall, and Arya going all Kill Bill on Ser Meryn. Although if Myrcella is dead (and I assume she is, would...
  28. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Right, he would have come up with some reason why Trystane would have had to follow her on a later trip. If that had happened, I'd absolutely believe he was in on the kill. Which would still be stupid, because even if he was secretly plotting with Daenerys, why throw away your backup plan for no...
  29. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    This would not only be profoundly stupid for Doran to do, but it would be a really stupid thing to hide from the viewer and come back next season and be like 'oh and my messenger was secretly meeting with Daenerys this whole time'
  30. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    I think it can probably interchangeably mean blonde hair or a literal crown, since their blonde hair was already such a major plot point during season 1. Or you can go with the 'by Dornish law Myrcella was Queen, not Tommen' to give her a figurative crown, but that's stretching things pretty far...
  31. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    I think the implication is clear that Reek and Sansa were trying to commit suicide. I assume that Season 6 opens with them finding out they were actually jumping into a giant snow drift or something. Killing Myrcella is stupid unless Ellaria realizes she's committing suicide to do it. She...
  32. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    That was awful, and Ellaria is a fucking retard. She she has to know she's going to die a savage brutal death as soon as Jaime turns that ship around and threatens Doran with war, and there's no way Doran is stupid enough to think he could cover up both Jaime AND Myrcella's death without...
  33. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    That chapter synopsis reminded me of something semi-important. Under Dornish law, Myrcella is the rightful Queen of Westeros, because they practice absolute primogeniture. Which means they could press her claim to the throne even without Tommen's death. That theoretically means that her claim to...
  34. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    I don't have the book handy but the chapter synopsis from the wiki implies that they did have that heartfelt chat in the cell.
  35. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Tyrion offered him tons of gold...if he happened to survive trial by combat against the Mountain. He didn't betray Tyrion and Tyrion even said he didn't fault him for the decision. I also don't think Bronn is stupid enough to be suborned by the sand snakes unless they can somehow prove to him...
  36. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    S5E4, Sons of the Harpy. Sansa lights a candle for Lyanna and thats when her and LF talk about what Rhaegar did. I agree it's thin, but there really are no other clues to Jon's parentage, and obviously everyone who watches the show is going to assume there is some sort of secret about Jon's...
  37. Gavinmad

    GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

    Like I said before, I've had people who haven't read the books tell me they think that, and while some of them may have picked it up from book readers, there is at least one whom I think didn't. That scene where they take the time to have Baelish and Sansa talk about Lyanna and Rhaegar tripped a...
  38. Gavinmad

    The Dallas Cowboys Memorial (2015 Off-Season) Thread

    Then why did the Patriots feel like they had to cheat?
  39. Gavinmad

    Jurassic Park 4

    Don't get all the complaints about the kids. The kid(s) sucked in 1 and 2 also, 3 didn't really have a kid because the kid was basically just a small adult rather than a child. I'd rather they included some throwaway bit about 'mom and dad are getting a divorce waaaah' that never comes back up...