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Skins gotta hold serve tonight, Eagles may have blown the "everyone above .500" thing today but Cowboys and Giants still plugging away. Also gotta say above the Vikings for the WC2 spot.

Jooka. Elite as fuck.

Worst last 2 plays ever by Miami.

Goff already with more TD drives than Rams had all of last week.

Yeah, and Giants get the Browns next week after having the Bears this week. Impossible to gain ground in the Beast.

Goff on fire Daez! Heh.

Sigh. Catler.

One time Cutler. Of course even if they score, they'll probably miss the XP and lose in OT.

Apparently that's the only penalty they will call on Dallas though

Cowboys give a gift with that

Deliver Cutler, give me some good news today.

Dallas just look insanely good.

9 XP's missed today

#1 defense in the league starting to bend and break. So much for hoping they could come through.

Last year I'd say he played elite. Only 3 QB's threw for 30+ TD's last year and were around or better a 4:1 TD:Int ratio... Brady, Wilson, Rodgers.

Well you linked Winston's passing yards last year and asked who was below that. Maybe you were implying something other than I thought you were.

I'll chuckle if Goff ends up throwing for 2+ TD's in a win and Fisher goes super troll mode in his presser. 5-5 through 10 games? Magic.

All true, I just quoted a post trying to portray Wilson as below Winston because Winston managed 18 more passing yards in 52 more passing attempts last season. I felt we could go deeper.

Jooka, any response to my thoughts on Wilson? Yay/nay?

This is known. I was just trying to point out the reasons why you can't just use the "barely over 4k yards" argument. Of the 12 guys who threw for 4k+ last year, only 1 guy had less than 535 attempts...Wilson, who had only 483.

Bite your tongue. Ravens are finding a way to win today.

Can't keep track of what everyone's definition of "elite" is. I agree he was propped up by an incredible defense and running game at the start of his career (and probably for his first Super Bowl). He's evolved since then. We're talking about the guy who led the league in passer rating last...

1st and 30. Ravens give it up.

Is good Cutler playing today? Keep it up Bears

Stop the run and force 3rd and long...it's kind of the formula to make any QB look rough, though.

I only remember the guy right below him went over 4k yards with 52 less attempts. Please stop being a moron.

Let me dream. Hope everyone on both teams get banged up.

Watching Ravens and Cowboys fans go at it on the week they play is just fantastic.

Gotcha, just weird to see him just get his $20M a year + deal this past year after missing the playoffs 3 years in a row.

So are we counting the cap number in those big years then? Thought his average salary/year on that deal was slightly over $15M a year.

Curious what Bubbles point about the $20M mark and guys winning rings after signing for it. Eli didn't start making $20M+ per year until last year, no? They haven't even made the playoffs since their last title. Eli is also the super weird playoff QB. 8-0 in 2 Super Bowl winning years, 0-3...

I'm betting NFL is finally starting to realize (or at least believe) that they're reaching full saturation point in the US. In their mind the falling ratings are probably just a product of that, and their natural response is to try to open up new areas of interest/revenue. I just don't think...

No it died back in like '07? Was more of a developmental league anyways. I was thinking an actual new division. Just don't think only one team in London would work well at all.

Are they going to have a training complex stateside then? And "homes" away from home in London? Otherwise they're still flying back and forth each week. Shit would be rough. Unless they find a way to do an entire NFL Europe division I just can't see it, even then it stretches travel out...

I will say that despite their positions, the Saints have been playing some good football lately and should have beaten Denver if not for crazy blocked/returned XP...and Carolina had a similar crazy loss that interrupted them sort of getting their shit together. No one trusts Atlanta...

I don't mind the Thursday games, but I can imagine it being a pain in the ass for players/coaches. Completely messes up your normal prep, increased risk of injury, etc. I like having a night game on Thanksgiving now though. Food and Football all day. I guess the only bright side is we'll get...

It's not the biggest deal, but would be curious to see what other teams that have played on Thursday night this year (although we're not even the night game, 4 hours earlier) had to play on Sunday night the week prior. I mean it's the Thanksgiving game, which I love when it's us and Dallas, but...

Yeah we're home Sunday night.

I'd like to thank the schedule makers for having us play the Sunday night game before having to play during the day at 430 on Thanksgiving.

Puck Fittsburgh.