2013 NFL Playoffs

jooka

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When you look at the "elite" QB's of the last 5-10 years, taking Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning specifically...their career playoff passer ratings are as follows: 89.3, 89.1, 88.4.

Not exactly a lot of gap between them. Peyton's first 3 years in the playoffs were with teams that weren't exactly contenders, starting him off 0-3. Since Brady's sick run of starting 10-0 in his playoff career (including 3 titles), he's a more average 7-6.

I think there are a lot of factors that go into overall playoff records...and while the QB has a great amount of control on it, it's not always the end all be all stat. Some QB's don't get enough credit for their play even with a .500 or below record, and there's a few who get far more credit than they have deserved for a winning record in the playoffs as well.
I believe the Bronco's lost as a team overall, but the dagger in the heart came from Peyton who made what I consider a rookie mistake. Someone on the coaching staff made a huge fuck up in the last 30 seconds of the 4th so every way you look at it they lost as a team. Manning is just the icing on the cake of fuck up.
 

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When you look at the "elite" QB's of the last 5-10 years, taking Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning specifically...their career playoff passer ratings are as follows: 89.3, 89.1, 88.4.

Not exactly a lot of gap between them. Peyton's first 3 years in the playoffs were with teams that weren't exactly contenders, starting him off 0-3. Since Brady's sick run of starting 10-0 in his playoff career (including 3 titles), he's a more average 7-6.

I think there are a lot of factors that go into overall playoff records...and while the QB has a great amount of control on it, it's not always the end all be all stat. Some QB's don't get enough credit for their play even with a .500 or below record, and there's a few who get far more credit than they have deserved for a winning record in the playoffs as well.
Damn right my boy leads the pack!
 

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I believe the Bronco's lost as a team overall, but the dagger in the heart came from Peyton who made what I consider a rookie mistake. Someone on the coaching staff made a huge fuck up in the last 30 seconds of the 4th so every way you look at it they lost as a team. Manning is just the icing on the cake of fuck up.
Yes, the pick in OT was a terrible decision, not unlike Farve's throw with Minnesota against the Saints...but also like that game, the team around him could have done so many things better and it never would have gotten to that point. It is what it is.
 

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Just watched the broncos/ravens again and it is absolutely heartbreaking, and as disappointing as any game I've ever watched, could go on forever on what went wrong, I don't think I have the energy atm.
 

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When you look at the "elite" QB's of the last 5-10 years, taking Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning specifically...their career playoff passer ratings are as follows: 89.3, 89.1, 88.4.
Was curious so I looked up The Ben since he's not on your list despite 2 rings and 3 appearances and a 10-4 record. He takes the same ~7 point drop as Peyton and Brady, down to an 84ish. Probably a little better if you take off his rubbish rookie performance, but it happened.
 

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Hope the Ravens beat the shit out of the Pats. Having Brady is like putting in a cheat code, he's so fucking good.
 

Merrith

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Was curious so I looked up The Ben since he's not on your list despite 2 rings and 3 appearances and a 10-4 record. He takes the same ~7 point drop as Peyton and Brady, down to an 84ish. Probably a little better if you take off his rubbish rookie performance, but it happened.
Sorry only listed those 3 just cause they all had similar ratings. I don't think anyone should be surprised QB's rating take a little dip in the playoffs, although it is interesting it's so consistent for so many of them. I'm not sure that list is accurate through this year, although Peyton had an 88.3 against the Ravens so it wasn't going to move at all either way.
 

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Really don't like the whole world favoring the Niners to win an NFC championship game in Atlanta. Love that Atl seems like a good matchup for us, don't love being favored by so many in a harsh road environment. Niners win divisional game in SF against Green Bay. The next week the Niners go on the road to play Atlanta in the NFC title game and are favored to beat them. I've seen this story before, 15 years ago, and it didn't end well.

I hope the team can stay focused and keep playing with a chip on their shoulders, cause every time this season that they've shown a dominating performance like they did last week, they come back and have a game where they look normal and very beatable.
 

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Yeah i think the betting spreads for both games are just for the suckers who like the favorites and the nationally popular teams. No way should New England be more than a 7 or 7 1/2 pt favorite, not the over 9 point favorite they are now. Baltimore always plays them close if they don't beat them outright. The spread on the ATL/SF game should probably be SF by 1. Giving more than a FG on the road in the NFC championship game is too much. Think the spread would have been much lower if the Niners hadnt looked so good this past week. Everyone is jumping on their bandwagon.
I would bet the Ravens plus 9 or 9 1/2 in a heartbeat. Would also probably bet the Falcons plus 4 even though I do not like them to win. The spread is just too high.
 

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Niners win divisional game in SF against Green Bay. The next week the Niners go on the road to play Atlanta in the NFC title game and are favored to beat them. I've seen this story before, 15 years ago, and it didn't end well.
Well, wild card and divisional, but that is strange.
 

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Yeah i think the betting spreads for both games are just for the suckers who like the favorites and the nationally popular teams. No way should New England be more than a 7 or 7 1/2 pt favorite, not the over 9 point favorite they are now. Baltimore always plays them close if they don't beat them outright. The spread on the ATL/SF game should probably be SF by 1. Giving more than a FG on the road in the NFC championship game is too much. Think the spread would have been much lower if the Niners hadnt looked so good this past week. Everyone is jumping on their bandwagon.
I would bet the Ravens plus 9 or 9 1/2 in a heartbeat. Would also probably bet the Falcons plus 4 even though I do not like them to win. The spread is just too high.
Spreads are never about straight up points, and always about a tease. No bookmaker is going to let the Pats be teased down to below a FG at home.
 

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Spreads are never about straight up points, and always about a tease. No bookmaker is going to let the Pats be teased down to below a FG at home.
The amount of money wagered each week on the NFL is predominantly made of bets against the spread, the moneyline, and the Over/Under. The amount bet on these types of wagers dwarf the amount wagered on teasers and parlays and other types of bets. Most lay people think that the purpose of the point spread by the bookmakers is to try to get the same amount wagered on both teams. This is not always true, even though it happens frequently. The bookmakers are fine putting a point spread down in certain situations where one team gets significantly more action than the other if they have analyzed the game enough to be comfortable taking that risk after taking their vig into account.
For instance, this week the public has currently bet San Francisco laying the points on the road for a little over 70% of the total action, meaning less than 30% of the public money has been bet on the Falcons. The line is currently at 3 and 1/2 down from 4 a day or 2 ago, but the line adjustment had not significantly affected the action. Are the sportsbooks panicking that there is lopsided money coming in on the Niners and jacking the line way down to even out the money? No. That means they are comfortable with their exposure in the game and actually like the home underdog to cover.
Interestingly, the majority of the action in the NE/Balt game has come down on the Balt side, with a little over 62% of all money coming down for Balt taking the points. The spread is currently fluctuating between 8 and 1/2 and 9.
 

Jozu

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Some interesting stats about the Niners.

They have lost(or didnt win) every third game this year. They win 2, then lose one. It has held true the whole year and if that continues then they will lose.

This will be their 14th NFC Championship game appearance. They have won 5 and lost EIGHT. Five of those losses at home.

They have only TWO road playoff victories in the franchise's history.

They lost their last 5 road playoff games.

They have only won ONE NFC championship game on the road.

All of those stats are disheartening to say the least if your a Niner fan. On the other hand, Atlanta gives up 8.9 yards per QB rush, worse in the league. Their run defense as a whole is also in the bottom half, and they just let Russel Wilson throw for almost 400 yards on them in one half. Should be a good game but if Harbaugh outcoaches Mike Smith this one should be kind of one sided.
 

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I need the 9'ers to win this weekend so Brady can shit on the Harbaugh's in back to back games. So I am a 9'ers fan this weekend!


Make it so!
 

Jozu

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I need the 9'ers to win this weekend so Brady can shit on the Harbaugh's in back to back games. So I am a 9'ers fan this weekend!


Make it so!
Doubt it. Kaeperbro already beat Tommy at Gillette. The Patriots dont have the speed on defense to spy Keapernick or consistently stop the pistol. People were laughing about Colin running the pistol but now he has suddenly risen to the top tier of the league at the position, predominantly using the pistol.

What is truly fascinating about Kaepernick is the fact that he leads all passers in yards per attempt, and has the best accuracy on long balls. That is eye-opening to say the least, as Alex Smith had almost zero down field ability, and now Kap not only has the arm to exploit a defense deep, but his legs have proven to be possibly the best ever if he continues to break contain.
 
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but now he has suddenly risen to the top tier of the league at the position, predominantly using the pistol..
you and the rest of Cali are so fucking premature on this shit it's not even funny. He hasn't even played a full season and you're ready to call him elite, or in the top tier?

The joke's on you when he shits his pants on Sunday - the funniest part about that statement is that you have less than a full season of precedent to argue it. So do yourself a favor and bite your tongue.
 

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Did you not see them calling Crabtree the new Jerry Rice before? SF fans are so enthusiastic right now it's adorable.
Most legit fans tend to be pretty level-headed right now. They're aware of how young Kaep is and how there just isn't enough footage on him for teams to properly prepare against him. Not a whole lot of Cathan-level asstardery. However, that panda hat fan base is frothing at the mouth taking the "QUEST FOR SIX" very seriously. One friend of such category was arguing with me that the 49ers already made Super Bowl and I told him they had to win this week first. I was insulted when he googled it to see if I was correct.
 

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They're aware of how young Kaep is and how there just isn't enough footage on him for teams to properly prepare against him. Not a whole lot of Cathan-level asstardery.
Yeah, that's why I'm already sick and tired of all the "hype" surrounding the kid. Don't get me wrong, I think he has an extremely high ceiling, potentially, but you just never know. Once defenses get more exposure to the guy, our mediocre(Crabtree is stepping up pretty big this year) receiving core is going to rear its ugly head. He's horrible at throwing on the run, which is why the Lambs fared so well against him. They have a good enough D-line to consistently force him to move and throw on the run, which he can't really do. He also needs to learn to take some of the fucking heat off of the ball once in a while. It rarely needs to be rocketed into the flat.
 

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The people I know, and the 49ers boards that I read are excited about Kaeperbro, but the media frenzy around him because of the Packers game is nuts. Most of us are pretty confident about the game on Sunday, but after last year we all know anything can happen, especially if there are a couple turnovers. There are a lot of embarrassing retards in the fanbase, but I don't think the NFL Network/ESPN blowjobs reflect how a lot of the fanbase sees it.

The 49ers match up really well against the Falcons just like they did against the Packers, but that doesn't mean they can't or won't lose. I just have a feeling they're gonna play a monster game after reliving the pain from the 2011 NFCCG all week.