DickTrickle
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He averages three per game on the season. He had about 10 games this season with 0 free throws, including a three game streak. He's not some SGA style penetrating scorer.
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amigo
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Nobody is looking at him angrily to warrant free throws. Unlike FGA who's probably got 1/3 or the entire league's free throws (while Jokic has to settle with "only" 1/3 of the entire league's tripple-doubles that isn't even worthy of being listed at the league's stats page).
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Damn, you guys are some salty bitches about SGA and free throws. Always ready to jump on some ESPN narrative to explain why a guy is good. Reggie Miller correctly pointed out that SGA averages less FTAs than he did when he was in the league. Cry more.
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My issue with a lot of the narratives around fixing is that the refs in NBA games are some of the worst in televised sports history. NFL is the only reasonable contender, and they are miles below the "It's not travelling until I think it is, regardless of steps." or "That's clearly a shooting foul when I think it is, until I think it isn't even though the shooter got roughed in both cases."
I don't think it's actually fixed, but we have instant replay technology. The refs should just call attention to potential things if they see them, and then replay needs to look at an aggregate of the game as well as the incident itself and compare the concepts. Every time a player calls attention to a play, instant replay should be able to look and determine if it was or was not a problematic play. We shouldn't be giving so much leeway to humans who are prone to make mistakes. Or be obviously biased.
Penalize players for calling foul when no foul (via instant replay) occurred. Negate calls frequently when the ref is clearly retarded. We have the technology.
I don't think it's actually fixed, but we have instant replay technology. The refs should just call attention to potential things if they see them, and then replay needs to look at an aggregate of the game as well as the incident itself and compare the concepts. Every time a player calls attention to a play, instant replay should be able to look and determine if it was or was not a problematic play. We shouldn't be giving so much leeway to humans who are prone to make mistakes. Or be obviously biased.
Penalize players for calling foul when no foul (via instant replay) occurred. Negate calls frequently when the ref is clearly retarded. We have the technology.
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Yeah, but when is when? According to players, always. Although in the finals so far it wasn't a problem, throughout the playoffs it was annoying watching constant demands for a challenge/review by the players, and too often it was BS (call was obviously ok).
Maddafakkas, mixmax your basketball, not everything else around it. We've had it enough with numerous time-outs, now we also have to suffer extended time-outs.
Refs are shit, won't argue that, and biased. And afaik there's some kind of scoring system in place for them, and they get $$ penalized if they eff up too much, but obviously it isn't enough.
Maddafakkas, mixmax your basketball, not everything else around it. We've had it enough with numerous time-outs, now we also have to suffer extended time-outs.
Refs are shit, won't argue that, and biased. And afaik there's some kind of scoring system in place for them, and they get $$ penalized if they eff up too much, but obviously it isn't enough.
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I've watched a total of maybe 6 game-time minutes of this series.
SGA is a foul merchant. Dude is so painful to watch - he's a great player, but is boring as fuck. He's more painful to watch than James Harden. The way SGA gets his free throws just shows how retarded NBA refs are.
SGA is a foul merchant. Dude is so painful to watch - he's a great player, but is boring as fuck. He's more painful to watch than James Harden. The way SGA gets his free throws just shows how retarded NBA refs are.
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Honestly it's ESPN's fault. Their stake in the WNBA means they have to try and amp up the sport in any way possible. The college "rivalry" where Angel's team beat Caitlin's team (even though Caitlin carried the team in the game) was basically one game and a viral moment that ESPN cranked up to 11 and posted almost as much as they do about Aaron Rodgers. The two are drastically different players at very different skill levels in different positions. It doesn't even make sense to compare them in most cases, but it's obvious Reese is objectively inferior in almost every way compared to Caitlin.
And fuck ESPN specifically for spamming this trash constantly and now I know something about women's sports. Whatever part of my brain had to be emptied in order to soak that nonsense up is absolutely worse for it.
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Alex
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The Angel Reese hate is warranted. There's apparently some sports betting group that does a prop bet every game on the under for when she'll miss her first shot and they've made a ton of money. She had a game recently where she got like five rebounds on one possession all from her own misses. Insane work.
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DickTrickle
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Watching all her mebounds, it's like she's not even trying to make the shot but playing hot potato instead.
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Since most of the WNBA is kind of inept comparatively, I could see that actually being a legit strat for eating up the clock if you are ahead and there's not a lot left in the game.
Granted it's kind of unintentional - she's just a really bad shooter.
Granted it's kind of unintentional - she's just a really bad shooter.
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The worst part about the constant foul calls is how badly it slows down the flow of the game. SGA and players who constantly play 40+ minutes a game benefit hugely from the constant foul calls that slow the game down, not only the shooting fouls.
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The refs will be bad eternally, and only get worse, because the NBA decided to go all-in on basketball American "streetball" from the hoods of NYC and Chicago decades ago. They stopped calling over the back, 3 second violations, palming, moving screens, and travelling because playing basketball by the rules is hard and the pace of the game is slowed. You have to execute as a team instead of going 1 on 1 as much. This is only exacerbated by the NBA wanting everything to be exciting and so they instruct the refs to allow violation and fouls that don't "affect the ball handler" or "gain an advantage". Smart players realized this (starting with the white Euro players familiar with similar lax rules in soccer) and so they started flopping and exaggerating contact to take advantage of the ridiculousness. It is a death spiral of lack of rule enforcement leading to worse play leading to further lack of enforcement. This doesn't even touch on the completely fucking retarded concept of "physical playoff basketball" that comes at us in the post season where they allow so much excessive contact that it might as well be a completely different sport than the regular season.
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Araxen
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The Lakers have been sold to Mark Walter, the CEO and chairman of diversified holding company TWG Global. 10 billion dollar sale.
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That's probably good for the team. He owns the Dodgers too and he's willing to spend into the tax and lets the sports dudes do the sports stuff for the most part.The Lakers have been sold to Mark Walter, the CEO and chairman of diversified holding company TWG Global. 10 billion dollar sale.
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Amazing that SGA gets away with that left arm push off during every jump shot.
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You can try and lay the entire series at the feet of SGA, but the grace he's been given by the refs really hasn't had a significant impact on the series. In fact, both teams have been getting their share of questionable calls. Anyone who is familiar with the NBA understands this and it's why I couldn't care less about officiating unless it gets absolutely egregious.
The reason Haliburton doesn't go to the line more often is that he doesn't attack the basket much (that was even noted in his draft report) and he doesn't look for contact when shooting. While I don't particularly care for the foul-baiting style of play, players with the ability to score through contact and/or draw stupid fouls would be morons to not farm it if the NBA is not only going to allow it, but encourage it with the way the games are called.
Even though SGA looks for contact, the guy only averages a bit more than 8 FTAs a game. Going to the line 4-6 times a night for a part-time slasher with his usage rate (second behind Giannis who averages almost 11 FTAs a game) is not surprising. There are ~25 guys in the NBA that are averaging 5-7 FTAs a game so he's definitely not the only guy getting to the line and often. I will concede that he probably gets 1 or 2 gift calls a game, but EVERY star chosen by the NBA gets that benefit.
Now, game 6.
The primary reason OKC lost the game last night is because they turned the ball over 21 times (more than double IND) and shot absolutely abysmally from three (26% 8-30).
Were it not for an outstanding defensive performance, OKCs horrendous three-point shooting is why they came very close to losing a previous game in the series.
Game 6 was a statistically unimpressive, average game from Indiana (though they protected the ball well) and if OKC doesn't pull their head out of their collective asses they're going to go from being the darling to another underachieving disappointment that got blown up by the massive underdog.
P.S. And OKC getting repeatedly schooled by T.J. McConnell is embarrassing as fuck.
The reason Haliburton doesn't go to the line more often is that he doesn't attack the basket much (that was even noted in his draft report) and he doesn't look for contact when shooting. While I don't particularly care for the foul-baiting style of play, players with the ability to score through contact and/or draw stupid fouls would be morons to not farm it if the NBA is not only going to allow it, but encourage it with the way the games are called.
Even though SGA looks for contact, the guy only averages a bit more than 8 FTAs a game. Going to the line 4-6 times a night for a part-time slasher with his usage rate (second behind Giannis who averages almost 11 FTAs a game) is not surprising. There are ~25 guys in the NBA that are averaging 5-7 FTAs a game so he's definitely not the only guy getting to the line and often. I will concede that he probably gets 1 or 2 gift calls a game, but EVERY star chosen by the NBA gets that benefit.
Now, game 6.
The primary reason OKC lost the game last night is because they turned the ball over 21 times (more than double IND) and shot absolutely abysmally from three (26% 8-30).
Were it not for an outstanding defensive performance, OKCs horrendous three-point shooting is why they came very close to losing a previous game in the series.
Game 6 was a statistically unimpressive, average game from Indiana (though they protected the ball well) and if OKC doesn't pull their head out of their collective asses they're going to go from being the darling to another underachieving disappointment that got blown up by the massive underdog.
P.S. And OKC getting repeatedly schooled by T.J. McConnell is embarrassing as fuck.
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