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Siliconemelons

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I think it was AI in parts like the tree cutting down clips, and the old man in the funeral.. maybe the old times pic of the planting / planted tree.
 

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If I saw that video a few years ago I wouldn't think it was fake (Like, paid actors) or CGI. Even now the biggest problem is oddly the voice which has the 2026 era AI synthesized voice, which has a pretty huge industry trying to improve while having a bajillion hours of highly labeled data to work from, so don't count on relying on synth-sounding voice for AI detection.

For this specific video, tree-drama between neighbors is a consistent problem, it's only the old man crying and his story that's exceptional. In terms of content, the video would be more believable if they had less professional looking arborists, since someone who shows up with a hard-hat, safety vest might and branded truck probably knows better than to remove a really beautiful oak tree in a dense suburban neighborhood without checking the right boxes. They might be held liable for the removal if they didn't follow the state / city law around the work. Conversely, a common problem is people getting quotes from professional arborists, balking at the price because how hard is it to cut down a tree? and then going with "some guy my friend knows who has a chainsaw", to hilarious effect.

 
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I mean... I had to get a permit to cut down my dead tree in my front yard. It did not cost anything, but it was a simple little process to go through - and that would have prevented this, in any manner other than the karen doing it herself.

But the situation is not out of the realm of possibility, so people will "buy" it...
 
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I mean... I had to get a permit to cut down my dead tree in my front yard. It did not cost anything, but it was a simple little process to go through - and that would have prevented this, in any manner other than the karen doing it herself.

But the situation is not out of the realm of possibility, so people will "buy" it...
That's interesting. I don't know how common it is but in my small city you don't need a permit to cut down a tree on your own property.
 

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That's interesting. I don't know how common it is but in my small city you don't need a permit to cut down a tree on your own property.

50/50 if that you do, just no one does.

Now in heavily wooded areas, like my brothers house in NC you can do whatever, in a certain % of affect - like he can just clear cut 10% I think, if he wanted without any permit or notice, then his HoA has rules above the county rules etc. etc.

The "AI" made it look like a normal suburb type area "by a lake" that didnt match the "old time planting" picture (as there was no generally viable lake for the tree to be in the way of) - also..

Take everything as true. It is a 100yr old tree, "I bought this house for the view" - IT HAD NO VIEW the tree would have been there when you bought it, so you bought it /for the potential view/ meaning you from the get go intended to cut down not your tree.

Anywho

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This is why I'll never sign a HOA agreement, nor move into a neighborhood with a HOA.

Fucking telling me that I can't paint my house? Fuck you.
 
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But the situation is not out of the realm of possibility
like everything now, micro-fake, macro-true. guy i work with had it actually happen a couple of weeks ago. he hired landscapers to do something to his flower beds, but he came home and found his two palm trees that he planted himself over 30 years ago gone. hard to even imagine the amount of rustle.
 
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This is why I'll never sign a HOA agreement, nor move into a neighborhood with a HOA.

Fucking telling me that I can't paint my house? Fuck you.

Not to derail this thread with HOA stuff, but this is the right attitude to take if you don't want to be governed by HOAs. Too many people choose to live in a clean and tidy dense suburban neighborhood that's governed by an HOA but then balk at the specific rules they don't like. If you don't like the rules, don't buy the house. Go live in another neighborhood where everyone does whatever they want, this is America.

I currently live in an HOA-controlled neighborhood and read the agreement closely before buying the house. In my case nearly all the language is soft and governed by "reason", which is preferable to strict requirements.

For reference, my govt and HOA doesn't require approval or a permit to remove trees, the language is

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For clarification, the common areas are outside your property.

6 inches is pretty short, I haven't heard of anyone getting a nastygram from not mowing, but people usally keep their shit together in my neighborhood. I imagine if some HOA fascist moved in and started walking around with a ruler and complaining about lawns it'd be a problem we'd take care of.
 
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Not to derail this thread with HOA stuff, but this is the right attitude to take if you don't want to be governed by HOAs. Too many people choose to live in a clean and tidy dense suburban neighborhood that's governed by an HOA but then balk at the specific rules they don't like. If you don't like the rules, don't buy the house. Go live in another neighborhood where everyone does whatever they want, this is America.

I currently live in an HOA-controlled neighborhood and read the agreement closely before buying the house. In my case nearly all the language is soft and governed by "reason", which is preferable to strict requirements.

For reference, my govt and HOA doesn't require approval or a permit to remove trees, the language is

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For clarification, the common areas are outside your property.

6 inches is pretty short, I haven't heard of anyone getting a nastygram from not mowing, but people usally keep their shit together in my neighborhood. I imagine if some HOA fascist moved in and started walking around with a ruler and complaining about lawns it'd be a problem we'd take care of.
I do not have an HOA now. Every house but 2 that I've owned did have an HOA. I 100% read the agreement before signing. my 1st house said 'no work vehicles can be parked in the driveway' at the time I didn't own my own car, I had a work pickup with a company name on the side. I asked my realtor to get a definition of 'work vehicles' . She replied I could just park in the garage. I said, what if I want to build a race car or open a meth lab in my garage? She said 'you aren't going to open a meth lab are you? I said no and I'm not going to build a race car either but what if I WANTED to.
 

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I don't think I could handle a HOA. People who want to control what their neighbors do on their own property drive me nuts.
 
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eh they have some value. have you seen when h1b boat fags move in? they treat their yards like shit makes the entire street look fucking awful.
 

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I mean it just shows you why HOAs exist. The minute the subject comes up, a pro-HOA voice always appears.

Its one of those issues where there are two completely fucking different kinds of people.

Some people think its reasonable to try to control what other people do on their own property.

Other people like freedom.
 
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I mean it just shows you why HOAs exist. The minute the subject comes up, a pro-HOA voice always appears.

Its one of those issues where there are two completely fucking different kinds of people.

Some people think its reasonable to try to control what other people do on their own property.

Other people like freedom.
Yep. Part of it is also what kind of neighborhood you want to live in.

I've currently got young kids and chose to live in a neighborhood where houses are packed together with families who also have young kids. The closer everyone is to each other the more disruptive commonly banned situations. For example "Don't run a business out of your house" where someone might have several diesel trucks for their burgeoning landscaping business idling at 5AM . Or "Don't park your rec vehicles here" where someone might have an RV, boat and a camper that would occlude the space around in these sardine houses. I wouldn't realllllly mind if someone painted their house hot pink, put gay greek statues on their yard and then advertised for the local gay bar, but the "Don't make your house look dumb AF" rule matters a lot more when your house is in plain view of 10 other houses.

One contentious policy my HOA has is you can't build fences in your back yard, which isn't uncommon in southeast Michigan. I grew up in Las Vegas and Albuquerque where concrete fences in your back yard was standard and many people had concrete / chain link fences in their front yard. If they voted on a change in this policy I could go either way but I can see the benefit of having my kids and their buddies scamper around the woods / backyards freely.
 
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I always picture HOA leadership to have German accents.

"Your inferior birdhouse is improperly zoned, you brought forth the full discontent of the Home Owners Association Socialist Party. Zee bird house will have to be...eliminated."
 

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Yep. Part of it is also what kind of neighborhood you want to live in.

I've currently got young kids and chose to live in a neighborhood where houses are packed together with families who also have young kids. The closer everyone is to each other the more disruptive commonly banned situations. For example "Don't run a business out of your house" where someone might have several diesel trucks for their burgeoning landscaping business idling at 5AM . Or "Don't park your rec vehicles here" where someone might have an RV, boat and a camper that would occlude the space around in these sardine houses. I wouldn't realllllly mind if someone painted their house hot pink, put gay greek statues on their yard and then advertised for the local gay bar, but the "Don't make your house look dumb AF" rule matters a lot more when your house is in plain view of 10 other houses.

One contentious policy my HOA has is you can't build fences in your back yard, which isn't uncommon in southeast Michigan. I grew up in Las Vegas and Albuquerque where concrete fences in your back yard was standard and many people had concrete / chain link fences in their front yard. If they voted on a change in this policy I could go either way but I can see the benefit of having my kids and their buddies scamper around the woods / backyards freely.
Yeah. I do understand the basic motivation. And I definitely agree its an issue that comes to the forefront more easily when houses are close together.

I think theres still a fundamental difference worth acknowledging though.

I mean look at it this way. If you live in an apartment building, you hear your neighbors when they fart or fuck. Because you live so close together, this happens inevitably. And nobody wants to listen to that. This is understandable. Just like the neighbor painting his house gay pink or whatever. Nobody wanted that.

But some people resist the urge to control other people, take a deep breath, and accept that their neighbor also has a right to live his life. And if it bothers them so much, they should move somewhere they don't have to deal with it.

Other people decide their urge to control other people is right and just, and form a committee to enforce those preferences on their neighbor.

Control Control nailed this one - its about whether a person values freedom enough to let their neighbors have it too.