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Utnayan

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Yeah. What exactly are we getting out of this expedition? An icon and pain? I’m all set for it and most people are just running grind mission after grind mission hitting apartments on night missions to get things to sell over and over.

why.
 

gauze

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People enjoy the elusive carrot on a stick.. same reason people grind for golden skins, rare mounts, or high rank. Ego, pride, and vanity?

Personally, i'm just looking for something to do. I'm not much of a looter, so going in and out of raids getting the highest value isn't really my thing. I'm a shooter, so that peanut clip sums up my fun.. but I do love going to places that I gotta grab an item or interact with something.. then a natural fight progresses and I have to adapt to the situation i'm in.. rather than going to Stella Montis and knowing almost every step a person is gonna take.. very counter-strike-y in that regard.
 

Gator

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I was planning on just doing the expedition and starting fresh. I didn't have many blueprints so it wasn't going to much of a loss. I started the expedition and I'm at the part where you need to donate the 830k in items. Of course this week while raiding with Utnayan Utnayan I made out like a bandit on blueprints. With the recent announcement, I don't think its worth it anymore and I'll hang back and see how the game evolves. I would be nice if my investments would carry over to the next one since I'm not going to finish.

A late announcement with such a high requirement was a bad idea, imo. I know the last stage is optional but if I'm going to commit to such little gains I'd rather be min/maxed. Not sure what they were thinking unless they really only want the hardcore to wipe.
 
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Mao

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The expedition rewards for the work required seem pretty meh. I personally think all the cosmetics in this game kinda look like ass, so unless this one wows I doubt I'd give a shit about it. The 5 skill points would be nice, but 5million is a lot. I have 177hrs in currently, max level and I'm sitting at just shy of 2mil in coin. Not quite certain what it would work out to be cash wise, but assuming best case scenario I could make it if I liquidated my entire stash and put in some effort over the next week. But the question remains.... but why?

I could do it for the challenge, but there really is no 'new' challenge to it. Just repeat what I did already with a prestige skin, albeit most likely harder since they have nerfed BP and Security Locker drop rate/quality.

The 5 extra skill points are nice, but it really feels like the skill tree system outside a few major skills (stam regen and security locker) is trivial at best, outright broken and not working at worst. So while grinding till you eventually unlock the whole tree is a thing the work to reward ratio just doesn't fit for me.

Losing all your BP is a thing that would hurt most, but at this point I enjoy just using a ferro and a kettle/stitcher. The 'no fucks given' loadout that can do it all just fine. I really wouldn't need any of my BPs in the future.

So... for me it feels kinda pointless. I'll prolly do it just for want of something else to do but I feel as if the juice has been squeezed out of this game and anything that's left really ain't worth it for serious play. Just a casual, drop in and loot/shoot when I'm bored between other games and want some variety.

Gator Gator You can finish all the expedition steps to completion and choose not to go on the expedition. At least that is what was initially stated. So, you can have it all done and waiting and just not commit until you feel like it. No need to stop just short of completing it because it won't force you to reset.
 

Sludig

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Man, 2 space port storm runs trying to do carryables, hit basically 4.5 clusters of where crates should be not a single one.

Best time right now is carrying new players is pretty rewarding. Still have some stuff gator if you decide to push upgrades and the expedition.
 
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Sludig

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The expedition rewards for the work required seem pretty meh. I personally think all the cosmetics in this game kinda look like ass, so unless this one wows I doubt I'd give a shit about it. The 5 skill points would be nice, but 5million is a lot. I have 177hrs in currently, max level and I'm sitting at just shy of 2mil in coin. Not quite certain what it would work out to be cash wise, but assuming best case scenario I could make it if I liquidated my entire stash and put in some effort over the next week. But the question remains.... but why?

I could do it for the challenge, but there really is no 'new' challenge to it. Just repeat what I did already with a prestige skin, albeit most likely harder since they have nerfed BP and Security Locker drop rate/quality.

The 5 extra skill points are nice, but it really feels like the skill tree system outside a few major skills (stam regen and security locker) is trivial at best, outright broken and not working at worst. So while grinding till you eventually unlock the whole tree is a thing the work to reward ratio just doesn't fit for me.

Losing all your BP is a thing that would hurt most, but at this point I enjoy just using a ferro and a kettle/stitcher. The 'no fucks given' loadout that can do it all just fine. I really wouldn't need any of my BPs in the future.

So... for me it feels kinda pointless. I'll prolly do it just for want of something else to do but I feel as if the juice has been squeezed out of this game and anything that's left really ain't worth it for serious play. Just a casual, drop in and loot/shoot when I'm bored between other games and want some variety.

Gator Gator You can finish all the expedition steps to completion and choose not to go on the expedition. At least that is what was initially stated. So, you can have it all done and waiting and just not commit until you feel like it. No need to stop just short of completing it because it won't force you to reset.
Weapon BP's I agree, but suddenly not being able to make gun parts and some of those types of refiner items would hurt a lot. And the meds.
 

Sludig

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Well nice got 3 star on night dam pretty easy, sweating extracting with 5, 3 dead bodies and a heavy gun parts BP i didnt know I didnt have on a free kit.
 

Sludig

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The BP also wouldn't matter, but how they did it, makes it so you can't bp trade, except if someone isn't resetting, they could hold all the BP's.
 

Mao

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Weapon BP's I agree, but suddenly not being able to make gun parts and some of those types of refiner items would hurt a lot. And the meds.
IIRC, and according to the Wiki, grey guns take simple gun parts to upgrade and you can't make those via BP. So... if you are just using grey shit even those BPs don't matter.
 

Qhue

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Boot the game and change the date on your computer to be Dec 19+ and then go to the expedition page. It will show you the total value of your coins + stash so you can see where you stand with respect to the $5M.

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Staberinde

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Boot the game and change the date on your computer to be Dec 19+ and then go to the expedition page. It will show you the total value of your coins + stash so you can see where you stand with respect to the $5M.

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If the blue bar is accurate, that pic seems to imply you only need ~3 million total to get the 5 skill points points instead of 5 million. Wonder if they might be backtracking on the total amount needed given the general backlash.
 
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Utnayan

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Yeah I am at 2.1 Million - so 900k to go would change my mind on prestige. That extra 200k from the graph above with Qhue Qhue filled half the bar.

I would have to get 900k more in money- basically just running night raids and hitting up apartments in Dam and Buried City. Usually 50k a pop if you get a spawn close enough. SO about 20 runs in and out. Right now my stash is stacked with epic guns - I have about 4 level 1 osprey's though I could upgrade and get that to an additional 250k in worth. I would also fill out wolfpacks since I can make those - or make tempests.
 

gauze

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If the blue bar is accurate, that pic seems to imply you only need ~3 million total to get the 5 skill points points instead of 5 million. Wonder if they might be backtracking on the total amount needed given the general backlash.
I haven't done the math, but according to someone who noticed the same thing.. the other two-ish million was part of the quest's to do the expedition. I know the donations alone were roughly 900k.. but all the pieces and parts, not sure if that equals the rest. I just accepted it at his word.
 
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OU Ariakas

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Optional reset through the Expedition system. Otherwise it is just business as usual for everyone else, although I wouldn't be surprised if the people who reset are more PK happy than normal

Can I reset at any time after that? I don't really get it!
 

gauze

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Can I reset at any time after that? I don't really get it!
It's a window, you don't have to reset at this window.. but I believe you will have to wait til next window; is how i'm understanding it.. Right now, that window is the Dec 17-22.. and I'd guess the next window is somewhere around March/April.
 
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Cybsled

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Yup - you have to complete all stages of the expedition project and then you're eligible to do the reset. If you miss this window, you have to wait for the next reset window.

Even if I wanted to reset, I haven't completed the final stage
 
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Sludig

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Edit guess season is longer than just the weekly.

Doing wasp damage, was ready to head out and some guy tried jumping me, summoned 9 on him. Sadly couldn't loot because he agrod the bombadier and they all swapped to me.
 
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Cybsled

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That is one reason why I carry lure grenades. Resets Arc aggro more or less as they swap to the nade, so if you toss it near another player, the Arc are more likely to target them. and if the nade actually sticks to them, they're fucked lol