Archeage
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To be fair, there isn't really a reason to fight back in a lot of situations. The level of risk in this game is so trivial it's not really worth it. You gank someone moving a pack? That's 2-3g in mats, who cares? It's a poor system which puts zero risk on the aggressor, which is why people only run safe routes or sea routes in numbers. That said before I lost interest in this game I ran Halycona/Sanddeep/Hellswamp -> Solis constantly on my clipper and I think I encountered somebody who tried to gank me once.
I guess. I prefer to do that in an arena or other dedicated setting though. PVP for the sake of PVP is retarded honestly. Even in more PVP-centric games like League the PVP takes a back seat (at the non-autistic levels) to objectives and strategy. There is none of that in Archeage and I guess that's my main problem with it.
Edit: To make my post a bit more constructive, to elaborate what I mean is that I expected a more refined version of Shadowbane with this game. I dove straight in with no background knowledge of the game other than reading a few posts here and Tuco's cheerleading for it, so I decided to give it a whirl. There was talk of PVP being centric to the entire AA experience. I saw land ownership, farming, castles, etc and hoped that it would be something that MMOs lack: high-level strategy in a PVP environment. Instead of that, I got a zerg everything/RNG/P2W experience and the only actual strategy involves a tiny number of players in castle sieges.
For fuck's sake, Hearthstone has better PVP and strategy than this game does.
Edit: To make my post a bit more constructive, to elaborate what I mean is that I expected a more refined version of Shadowbane with this game. I dove straight in with no background knowledge of the game other than reading a few posts here and Tuco's cheerleading for it, so I decided to give it a whirl. There was talk of PVP being centric to the entire AA experience. I saw land ownership, farming, castles, etc and hoped that it would be something that MMOs lack: high-level strategy in a PVP environment. Instead of that, I got a zerg everything/RNG/P2W experience and the only actual strategy involves a tiny number of players in castle sieges.
For fuck's sake, Hearthstone has better PVP and strategy than this game does.
Ridas
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bondurant again. Experiencing the same shit on Eanna. So called hardcore PvPers throwing a hisy fit because someone PKed them. People not fighting back. Lots of weird stuff.
Maybe FFA spoiled me, but I am used to constant fighting everywhere, but in this game I am spending lots of my time finding PvP.
Producer's Update #4(Spoilered for length):
ArcheAge Producer Update #4: Auroria, Land, Sieges, and looking forward
Hi, everyone ? We wanted to get you an update on all that?s important before the week was out.
Auroria?s Release
We know how much many of you prepared for, and were looking forward to, Auroria this week. Like you, we do wish it would have gone more smoothly. For those who aren?t aware, there was a communications bug in our build that included the Auroria release. This bug was causing disconnections in the North America release. We caught and fixed it before Europe saw it.
For those of you who were affected by it: You deserve better, plain and simple. We share your disappointment. We?re working hard to make sure something like that can?t happen ever again.
Unfortunately, it was a bug that only shows up at full, live scale. We test builds over multiple days internally, and this one never reared its ugly head. We wish as much as you do that it would have, so we could have caught it early.
As a result, by the time Auroria shipped in North America, the servers were steadily around 80% of the population we would have expected. The game was playable; it just wasn?t at all the smooth experience it was supposed to be. For that we apologize, and we promise to do better.
The disconnection bug initially presented as if it was a problem with the systems that are used to patch files to your computer, systems which are under our management. Like most developers, we immediately assumed the problem was on our side, and not a problem in the game itself. At the time, we were confident that that was where the problem lay, because the game tested out perfectly well in prior days. That was our error. Words don?t exist to describe how sorry we are for missing that diagnosis.
By the time the bug was properly diagnosed, people had already made significant progress. The Auroria build itself was so complex that there was no reasonable way to go backwards to give everyone a second try. Even pausing the action by suspending the servers would not have changed the outcome at that point.
Among the things that we?re doing to avoid this in the future, we have accelerated our plans for a Public Test Server. It will be in place before the next major build is released. While we can?t guarantee that it would have caught this issue, we know that it would have had a higher chance of happening there, and as such, getting that new Test Server out there is among our highest priorities. Stay tuned over the next couple weeks for updates on the new Test Server.
Auroria?s Land
During the release we were supervising the land claims using both modern and old-school methods - watching data in real time, as well as monitoring activities on servers ourselves and investigating as people were being called out on servers. It was important to us to make sure that our recent protections against people using 3rd party software have been working. We?re happy to report that, by and large, they have been.
I won?t link to the hacker forums here, but those of you who read them have seen that the two biggest 3rd party programs were taken offline with the release of Auroria. We apologize for not being able to announce that ahead of time. We?re happy to say that now, instead of solely being reactive to them and banning them after the fact, we?re also able to protect against them before they can do any harm.
How did the land work out? There are tens of thousands of new, legitimate land owners in ArcheAge.
There were under 20 people, out of everyone online that day, globally, who ended up with more land claims than would have been reasonable. The overwhelming majority of land was claimed by to people just like you, who play the game legitimately and are here to be great members of the ArcheAge community. We were able to verify many as being guilds who coordinated extremely well. We are continuing to investigate the rest, and will action and remove their gains as necessary.
While this was an important positive step, the fight continues. There will be more tools built in to the client over the coming days and weeks to handle illicit modding as well as protect against future potential hacks. Keep in mind that we generally are only able to talk about them once they?ve launched and have proven effective, as giving bad actors a heads up as to what?s coming specifically often reduces the effectiveness of the things we do. Stay tuned for those releases!
In general, we do ask that you keep in mind that bad actors remain a minuscule fraction of the entire Archeage population. The majority of what we investigated as reports of ?hacks? or ?illegal land grabs? were people playing legitimately and coordinating well by maximizing their use of in-game classes, strategies, and tools available - which is much of what a winning strategy in ArcheAge is.
As ArcheAge is a competitive game, we know that missing out hurts more than in a typical PvE game, but very few of what people report or perceive as ?hacks? actually turn out to be that. More people understanding that will only help the game?s community in the long term.
What Worked Well
On a more positive note, we?ve heard from many of you that the play was exactly what you had been hoping for, and that you did get to experience some of the best gameplay that ArcheAge has to offer.
We saw rival guilds work together to hold chokepoints against hundreds of people. We saw honor guards sacrifice themselves to protect their miners in the race to mine the Anya veins. We saw massive player-driven politics and team-based PvP exactly as it?s supposed to play out. We saw pirates band together to help out ?the little guy? guild in the face of what would otherwise have been overwhelming opposition.
The best part about that, is this kind of play has only just begun.
The Era of the Siege Dawns
We know some guilds feel like they missed out on the chance to get their castle. But the whole point of ArcheAge?s siege system is that castles can be taken.
Soon the Siege Declarations for every claimed zone will appear on the auction house. Those guilds powerful enough (and wealthy enough) to bid on them will compete for the right to lay siege to whichever castle they choose. And then the real fun begins.
This is the high-level pvp we?ve been waiting for. There is no zerg strategy in siege. You think your crew is worth a dozen of theirs? This is your chance to prove it. To sweeten the deal, you?ll be fighting for the most important prize of all: land, and all the benefits that come from its ownership.
Surrounding each guild?s Archeum Lodestone is a special housing area, known as a castle area. It is reserved for the ruling guild to place their houses and construct their fortifications. If you take the lodestone in a siege, the castle zone is yours? along with all the land inside. The Lord of each castle gains the right to destroy unwanted houses in that area, making room for his or her loyal guildmates, and forcing the defeated army out into the cold.
This means that a large housing area in each claimable zone is ALWAYS there for the taking?assuming you have the strength to do so.
Keep stockpiling your stone and lumber. Keep those Anya ingots handy. And prepare for the best that ArcheAge has to offer.
The real fight is just beginning.
Two Other Updates
We also have updates for you on a couple other topics that we know you care about ? Spam and Patron Discounts.
In additional good news, Trion?s learning spam filter also arrived in this build of ArcheAge. You can report spammers in game, as you always should have been able to, and the system will learn how to smartly block them over time. Many of you have noticed this and have been reporting away, and we definitely appreciate it. Keep feeding that filter ? it?s hungry for your clicks! It takes a week or so to learn, and we look forward to being that much closer to a spam-free future. This was the last big step to getting there.
And lastly, the 10% patron discount will take effect in the form of a 10% bonus to Credit Pack purchases beginning later today. In addition, the 10% bonus credits from any Credit Packs purchases made after Head Start while you were a patron will be granted later today. This is something we?re able to roll out independently, without adding more workload on the game?s developer. As such, we?ve agreed that this is the best way to get a great benefit into your hands as rapidly as possible. Details on how this will work and the reasoning around it will be elsewhere in the forums soon.
Thank you very much, and we really appreciate your patronage in ArcheAge!
- Victoria
Hi, everyone ? We wanted to get you an update on all that?s important before the week was out.
Auroria?s Release
We know how much many of you prepared for, and were looking forward to, Auroria this week. Like you, we do wish it would have gone more smoothly. For those who aren?t aware, there was a communications bug in our build that included the Auroria release. This bug was causing disconnections in the North America release. We caught and fixed it before Europe saw it.
For those of you who were affected by it: You deserve better, plain and simple. We share your disappointment. We?re working hard to make sure something like that can?t happen ever again.
Unfortunately, it was a bug that only shows up at full, live scale. We test builds over multiple days internally, and this one never reared its ugly head. We wish as much as you do that it would have, so we could have caught it early.
As a result, by the time Auroria shipped in North America, the servers were steadily around 80% of the population we would have expected. The game was playable; it just wasn?t at all the smooth experience it was supposed to be. For that we apologize, and we promise to do better.
The disconnection bug initially presented as if it was a problem with the systems that are used to patch files to your computer, systems which are under our management. Like most developers, we immediately assumed the problem was on our side, and not a problem in the game itself. At the time, we were confident that that was where the problem lay, because the game tested out perfectly well in prior days. That was our error. Words don?t exist to describe how sorry we are for missing that diagnosis.
By the time the bug was properly diagnosed, people had already made significant progress. The Auroria build itself was so complex that there was no reasonable way to go backwards to give everyone a second try. Even pausing the action by suspending the servers would not have changed the outcome at that point.
Among the things that we?re doing to avoid this in the future, we have accelerated our plans for a Public Test Server. It will be in place before the next major build is released. While we can?t guarantee that it would have caught this issue, we know that it would have had a higher chance of happening there, and as such, getting that new Test Server out there is among our highest priorities. Stay tuned over the next couple weeks for updates on the new Test Server.
Auroria?s Land
During the release we were supervising the land claims using both modern and old-school methods - watching data in real time, as well as monitoring activities on servers ourselves and investigating as people were being called out on servers. It was important to us to make sure that our recent protections against people using 3rd party software have been working. We?re happy to report that, by and large, they have been.
I won?t link to the hacker forums here, but those of you who read them have seen that the two biggest 3rd party programs were taken offline with the release of Auroria. We apologize for not being able to announce that ahead of time. We?re happy to say that now, instead of solely being reactive to them and banning them after the fact, we?re also able to protect against them before they can do any harm.
How did the land work out? There are tens of thousands of new, legitimate land owners in ArcheAge.
There were under 20 people, out of everyone online that day, globally, who ended up with more land claims than would have been reasonable. The overwhelming majority of land was claimed by to people just like you, who play the game legitimately and are here to be great members of the ArcheAge community. We were able to verify many as being guilds who coordinated extremely well. We are continuing to investigate the rest, and will action and remove their gains as necessary.
While this was an important positive step, the fight continues. There will be more tools built in to the client over the coming days and weeks to handle illicit modding as well as protect against future potential hacks. Keep in mind that we generally are only able to talk about them once they?ve launched and have proven effective, as giving bad actors a heads up as to what?s coming specifically often reduces the effectiveness of the things we do. Stay tuned for those releases!
In general, we do ask that you keep in mind that bad actors remain a minuscule fraction of the entire Archeage population. The majority of what we investigated as reports of ?hacks? or ?illegal land grabs? were people playing legitimately and coordinating well by maximizing their use of in-game classes, strategies, and tools available - which is much of what a winning strategy in ArcheAge is.
As ArcheAge is a competitive game, we know that missing out hurts more than in a typical PvE game, but very few of what people report or perceive as ?hacks? actually turn out to be that. More people understanding that will only help the game?s community in the long term.
What Worked Well
On a more positive note, we?ve heard from many of you that the play was exactly what you had been hoping for, and that you did get to experience some of the best gameplay that ArcheAge has to offer.
We saw rival guilds work together to hold chokepoints against hundreds of people. We saw honor guards sacrifice themselves to protect their miners in the race to mine the Anya veins. We saw massive player-driven politics and team-based PvP exactly as it?s supposed to play out. We saw pirates band together to help out ?the little guy? guild in the face of what would otherwise have been overwhelming opposition.
The best part about that, is this kind of play has only just begun.
The Era of the Siege Dawns
We know some guilds feel like they missed out on the chance to get their castle. But the whole point of ArcheAge?s siege system is that castles can be taken.
Soon the Siege Declarations for every claimed zone will appear on the auction house. Those guilds powerful enough (and wealthy enough) to bid on them will compete for the right to lay siege to whichever castle they choose. And then the real fun begins.
This is the high-level pvp we?ve been waiting for. There is no zerg strategy in siege. You think your crew is worth a dozen of theirs? This is your chance to prove it. To sweeten the deal, you?ll be fighting for the most important prize of all: land, and all the benefits that come from its ownership.
Surrounding each guild?s Archeum Lodestone is a special housing area, known as a castle area. It is reserved for the ruling guild to place their houses and construct their fortifications. If you take the lodestone in a siege, the castle zone is yours? along with all the land inside. The Lord of each castle gains the right to destroy unwanted houses in that area, making room for his or her loyal guildmates, and forcing the defeated army out into the cold.
This means that a large housing area in each claimable zone is ALWAYS there for the taking?assuming you have the strength to do so.
Keep stockpiling your stone and lumber. Keep those Anya ingots handy. And prepare for the best that ArcheAge has to offer.
The real fight is just beginning.
Two Other Updates
We also have updates for you on a couple other topics that we know you care about ? Spam and Patron Discounts.
In additional good news, Trion?s learning spam filter also arrived in this build of ArcheAge. You can report spammers in game, as you always should have been able to, and the system will learn how to smartly block them over time. Many of you have noticed this and have been reporting away, and we definitely appreciate it. Keep feeding that filter ? it?s hungry for your clicks! It takes a week or so to learn, and we look forward to being that much closer to a spam-free future. This was the last big step to getting there.
And lastly, the 10% patron discount will take effect in the form of a 10% bonus to Credit Pack purchases beginning later today. In addition, the 10% bonus credits from any Credit Packs purchases made after Head Start while you were a patron will be granted later today. This is something we?re able to roll out independently, without adding more workload on the game?s developer. As such, we?ve agreed that this is the best way to get a great benefit into your hands as rapidly as possible. Details on how this will work and the reasoning around it will be elsewhere in the forums soon.
Thank you very much, and we really appreciate your patronage in ArcheAge!
- Victoria
Jaybee
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They are selling a box that contains a Rumbling Archeum Tree in the cash shop, which has a high chance of being thunderstruck. If you were hording TS trees before the update, you lose.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever witnessed in the history of gaming.
One retard in guild chat was like: "I like this! I don't want to grind." That dude is literally why this P2W shit exists. People with absolutely zero impulse control. South Park was right.
One retard in guild chat was like: "I like this! I don't want to grind." That dude is literally why this P2W shit exists. People with absolutely zero impulse control. South Park was right.
Cybsled
Avatar of War Slayer
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Greatest update ever. So sick of planting shitloads of pines+cedar and getting jackshit.
Cybsled
Avatar of War Slayer
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TS wasn't the economy. TBH, their inflated price really didn't make much sense. For instance, a farm wagon takes 2 TS trees. With old prices, that is easily 2.4k gold alone. You get a 2 slot upgrade over the farm cart. On a good day on a long run, that is what...20 more gold over the cart? The amount of time, labor, and material cost just to break even was absurd.
It also means that people won't be afraid to use them to make less common vehicles, like siege vehicles, subs, or the gliders.
The only thing this really changes is the attractiveness of secret tree farms with the express purpose of farming TS.
It also means that people won't be afraid to use them to make less common vehicles, like siege vehicles, subs, or the gliders.
The only thing this really changes is the attractiveness of secret tree farms with the express purpose of farming TS.
Bondurant
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Well, they did the most retarded thing they could ever did. Not only they retroactively gave the 10% discount credits back, but they also put some new chest in cash shop, which could give you some 1h maturity saplings that have a 10% thunderstruck tree proc. They both did it AT THE SAME TIME. It's retarded on a abysmal level, and it's Trion's.
Fuse
Silver Knight of the Realm
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Some guy on archeage forum claims to be able to crash server at will, apparently crashes Ezi on command.
I caused the Kyrios/Naima crash, sorry, please read Trion
This game is special.
I caused the Kyrios/Naima crash, sorry, please read Trion
This game is special.
It was a scarce resource that was a barrier of entry into certain markets, like ocean sports fishing. The cost isn't surprising.
However, I didn't just pin the economy on TS. This has a double whammy by also hitting Archeum.
I'd look into buying up Regrade Scrolls and Stabilizers right now.
Gravel
Mr. Poopybutthole
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I'm personally one of those people who barely tries anymore in 1v1 PVP when someone gets the drop on me. As a daggerspell, I basically get either stun locked or killed so fast that frustrating myself with trying to survive, much less win, is an act of futility. The 1v1 PVP in this game is some of the worst I've ever played.
The group PVP, as I believe you've mentioned several times (I think it was you anyway), is always a game of "who can bring more people." That got old pretty fast. It's only so fun jacking smaller forces for so long, and generally when we'd meet forces that could compete, they'd avoid PVP.
