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Another delay on the live stream.

Our next Development Update Livestream will now air on November 14, 2025 at 11:00 AM Pacific. We’re still preparing a special announcement, and just like a fine Verran stew, it needs a little more time to cook before we serve it to you.

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This next live stream is going to be interesting.
 

Lunis

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This is looking more and more like Pantheon with a 100 million dollar budget.
 
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Nirgon

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so i tested the summoner. as far as I know, it s not a multiple pet spec its a one pet at a time spec. you choose one of three pets.If you want a different pet, you will have to respec to it. i ll admit I did not spend a lot of time testing it. it may be possible to spec into all 3 at the same time, but could not figure out how to do it.

Sad Jabober face
 
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Cybsled

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Sad Jabober face

This made me think back to the EQ best if the best tournaments. During the mage fight our guild leader had the mage epic and summoned the pet, expecting an easy win. But there was some buggy interaction with thorns that caused the epic pet to instantly die when it took thorns damage, so he got smoked by the other mage. He was fuming about that for a long time lol
 
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Nirgon

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This made me think back to the EQ best if the best tournaments. During the mage fight our guild leader had the mage epic and summoned the pet, expecting an easy win. But there was some buggy interaction with thorns that caused the epic pet to instantly die when it took thorns damage, so he got smoked by the other mage. He was fuming about that for a long time lol

There's bugs I saw on live that almost no one on p99 believes happened.

The shaman epic healing instead of doing damage, the infinite proc fiery defender.

Being able to leave your own aggro'd mage pets behind and hostile in zones, or a necro pet that would sit at the skele ruin and assist off other undead.

It's better to have loved and lost.
 
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Mahes

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Wow, that update had a lot of desperate in it. I think they are running out of money. They are opening it to early access on Steam. Steven even mentions that it costs a lot to make a game like this. Even Margaret brings up the money factor. I am not sure how putting it on Steam is going to suddenly generate more people. Everybody interested is either waiting or has already paid.

I am interested in trying out the Summoner. They chose to shut down and wipe the servers, which of course had a negative reaction given what they had said around continuity. So I guess Dec. 11th is when they bring them back online.

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Somebody posted this on Discord

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Dec. 11th is going to be fun to watch. What a fucking shame....

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Most of the people i talk to think that this is a mistake but here we are. Also anyone with a beta key will be able to log in via the launcher as well.
 

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man it's wild watching a $100mil game compete with a $100k game for least amount of converted players due to no steam launch.

how both this and MNM going to let Fuzzy fucking troll Pantheon clobber them in box sales is beyond me
 
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Lunis

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His mom got him into multi-level marketing? wtf lol? The whole video was pretty fair though, Kira is one of the few non-rage-bait commentators.

I think it all comes down to Steven biting off way more than he could chew for his first game. From the streams I've watched the map of the world seems way WAY too big, then you have the node system, 64 class combinations, various pvp systems, player made factions with voting, sieges, and on and on. There's no way you could complete all that in a reasonable time frame.
 
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His mom got him into multi-level marketing? wtf lol? The whole video was pretty fair though, Kira is one of the few non-rage-bait commentators.

I think it all comes down to Steven biting off way more than he could chew for his first game. From the streams I've watched the map of the world seems way WAY too big, then you have the node system, 64 class combinations, various pvp systems, player made factions with voting, sieges, and on and on. There's no way you could complete all that in a reasonable time frame.
Feel like many said similar years and years ago.

The giant map thing I've just never understood. Giant maps just mean lots of empty wasted space.
 

Cybsled

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Feel like many said similar years and years ago.

The giant map thing I've just never understood. Giant maps just mean lots of empty wasted space.

They clearly wanted a big map with the idea that players would build cities in the open areas, but that is a double edged sword as evidenced by Shadowbane. Even in Shadowbane at its peak, there was so much empty and wasted space. You would just run through bland useless space to get somewhere meaningful.

IMO "giant big maps!" was a draw 20 years ago because it was a novelty, but players quickly learned that giant but empty isn't a draw
 
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His mom got him into multi-level marketing? wtf lol? The whole video was pretty fair though, Kira is one of the few non-rage-bait commentators.

I think it all comes down to Steven biting off way more than he could chew for his first game. From the streams I've watched the map of the world seems way WAY too big, then you have the node system, 64 class combinations, various pvp systems, player made factions with voting, sieges, and on and on. There's no way you could complete all that in a reasonable time frame.
That's quite a bit more than VG:SOH, even Brad(RIP) would have known better.
 

Flobee

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Well I forgot I backed this on Kickstarter so apparently I get to log in and be disappointed personally instead of vicariously. Lucky me
 
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rhinohelix

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They clearly wanted a big map with the idea that players would build cities in the open areas, but that is a double edged sword as evidenced by Shadowbane. Even in Shadowbane at its peak, there was so much empty and wasted space. You would just run through bland useless space to get somewhere meaningful.

IMO "giant big maps!" was a draw 20 years ago because it was a novelty, but players quickly learned that giant but empty isn't a draw
I don't know, it seemed like they had a plan and better yet, project management to get this out the door. In retrospect, they should have shrank down to a single continent, cut tons of systems, soft launched etc but I bounced off this a long time ago since they more or less nuked Narc and have been waiting for them to reach a more polished stage of dev to come back in. That they are running out of money and star citizen keeps chugging on is maybe the saddest irony in the MMO space ever.


Edit: Narc deleted all of his AOC content and his whole YT channel; apparently he was getting so much hate he had to do a full clean break.
 
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I don't know, it seemed like they had a plan and better yet, project management to get this out the door. In retrospect, they should have shrank down to a single continent, cut tons of systems, soft launched etc but I bounced off this a long time ago since they more or less nuked Narc and have been waiting for them to reach a more polished stage of dev to come back in. That they are running out of money and star citizen keeps chugging on is maybe the saddest irony in the MMO space ever.


Edit: Narc deleted all of his AOC content and his whole YT channel; apparently he was getting so much hate he had to do a full clean break.
Its a shame too. I enjoyed Narc for all his weird intensity. I feel like he could have just ignored it and came out even higher on the list of streamers if he would have handled it well.

Last I played was not too long before Asmongold tried it and bounced off it. I'm pretty much in the same boat. People wanting to PVP in this game.. and theres nothing to gain from it.. so it just ends up being griefing at this point (in my mind.) Though, like Eve - I enjoy reading and watching about its progress and whats happening inside of it.
 
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rhinohelix

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Its a shame too. I enjoyed Narc for all his weird intensity. I feel like he could have just ignored it and came out even higher on the list of streamers if he would have handled it well.

Last I played was not too long before Asmongold tried it and bounced off it. I'm pretty much in the same boat. People wanting to PVP in this game.. and theres nothing to gain from it.. so it just ends up being griefing at this point (in my mind.) Though, like Eve - I enjoy reading and watching about its progress and whats happening inside of it.
I have watched a small segment of people demand PvP over and over again in games year after year and unless the game is designed around it and focused on, like Arc Raiders/The Division or Shadowbane/Arch Age, or as stated, Eve Online, and it ruins games and attracts predators, looking "good fights".

Steven wanting to make this game like Arch Age in the freedom sense seems great but then that warning goes off in my head.