Ashes of Creation

Loser Nirgon

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PvPers in EQ are like Furries, ninety nine percent of the population looks down on them and is disgusted by their degeneracy and lack of moral compass... but at least they aren't Eve Online players, so they have that going for them.

Those that can perform in this capacity are the best players and have the deepest understanding of the game's mechanics

So I have to disagree based on that
 
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Kuro

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I don't think I ever fought you in the arena. Most of emarr were inbred retards when it came to pvp, but there was one warrior that was sickeningly good at jousting. There were times where we could get a few dozen people fighting in there. I think westleyy (forget what guild he lead) was the one I remember seeing in there the most.
Yeah, I wasn't a PVP guy. I was just raiding and dragging people's corpses on my Rogue Witl or doing retarded shit with Leaden/Chiba/Coggins/Boggins/Tallanor
 

Burns

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Those that can perform in this capacity are the best players and have the deepest understanding of the game's mechanics

So I have to disagree based on that
Are you trying to say Furries aren't the best in the world in the "sex in a 100+ pound suit" category?
 

Burns

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Also, can we get some (non-illegal) insider information that is relevant to the lawsuit leaked here first? That way some junior associate lawyers at both law firms have the read though pages and pages of Mr. Sox, causing them to reconsider their choices in life that lead them to this point.
 

Bondurant

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Also, can we get some (non-illegal) insider information that is relevant to the lawsuit leaked here first? That way some junior associate lawyers at both law firms have the read though pages and pages of Mr. Sox, causing them to reconsider their choices in life that lead them to this point.
We most likely won't, all bets are off.
 

Pheerie

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It will be interesting to see what happens with this.
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JOESAN21

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Albion is another successful PvP MMO.

It absolutely can be done.
Asherons call darktide was another. But most of what made that special, and the early style UO stuff (rose colored glasses here) who was the community rather than the mechanics.

So the question is, how does a game get made anymore? Kirun has an excellent point by design, and expectation.; but how the heck do you put that in reality? We’ve seen ashes, Camelot. Star craft all crash and burn, even though they made millions in donations. Playing around with where Winds meet it seems like it can be done, and BDO did it in a way that added PVP, ocean stuff, trading, PVE with some depth at the beginning.

Is it even worth it anymore to complete a game? Every time I read these threads, it always reminds me of that Broadway play the producers where they end up making more money from a flop than they do from a hit. Is it even worth it in this day and age, if you’re not a Korean gotcha game selling micro bikinis, to actually finish a game?
 
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Loser Nirgon

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Jacobs had that breakdown on his porch that was frankly hard to watch, but Unchained isn't plug pulled yet. I'd fux with it.
 

Mahes

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Apparently Steam is beginning to give out refunds. You have to push it to a person. I bookmarked this video to show the letter.



If steam does end up refunding most of the purchases I wonder if Steam comes after him.
 
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Mahes

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Yeah how do you 'push it to a person' with steam support? Mine got rejected with 14hrs played.

According to Google AI.

  • Navigate to Steam Support: Go to the Steam Help site or select Help > Steam Support in the Steam client.
  • Locate the Purchase: Select Purchases, then find the specific game or item from your Purchase History.
  • Bypass the Automated Refund Bot: Instead of choosing "I'd like to request a refund," select "I have a question about this purchase".
  • Submit Your Detailed Appeal: Use the provided text box to explain your specific situation. Be polite and detailed, especially if you are outside the standard 14-day/2-hour window.
I would note that the game was advertised as being tested into a release. The actual release never occurred, thus I would like my purchase back now that the game is unplayable and did not live up to what was promised.
 

Mahes

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This got posted in AoC Reddit. She could be lying but I don't think so. Margaret was the lead spokes person for Intrepid. I thought she was one of the leads who had quit in protest for Steven, but I guess not.

My Experience ,

I waited until today to share this because I wanted to be sure I was communicating from a place of clarity.
Intrepid Studios has shut down in a way that I did not expect. What I can share is what I experienced.

On January 28, toward the end of the workday, I was informed that we would be laying off 100 developers. I was devastated - these are hardworking people who were going to lose their jobs. Still, I believed it was something we could face together and find a path forward from.

On January 29, I shared this information confidentially with my Game Services team. I told them that changes were coming, that I did not yet know who would be affected, and that I wished I had more certainty to offer. I could not live with myself if I did not give them advance notice - these are people who deserve to be treated like human beings. By the end of that day, I received confirmation of which people on my team would be impacted.

On January 30, I spoke individually with each of my team members to let them know whether they were affected, so they could begin planning and preparing. Those who were staying began working on ways to move forward. Even those who knew they would be leaving offered their support - showing the grace, professionalism, and strength that defined our Game Services team.

On January 31, we were all informed via a confusing email that we would be laid off, along with a WARN notice. It is still shocking. The entire studio gathered to try to understand what had happened and what it meant for our future.

In the end, none of us are receiving our final paychecks, the 60 days notice and pay outlined under the WARN Act, PTO payouts, or other compensation owed.
What matters most to me now are the people - both the players and developers.

To the players: the entire development team was working extremely hard, pulling long hours, and wishes with all our hearts that we could give you Ashes of Creation. There are no words that fully express how sorry we are that this journey ended this way. You should pursue a refund, you deserve it.

To my colleagues: this team is truly a family. The culture we built together is something I have never experienced anywhere else. In the midst of heartbreak and uncertainty, we have come together to review resumes, help with portfolios, share job leads, and support one another emotionally. That says everything about who we are as people.
For hiring managers and recruiters: we will be hosting a job fair for former Intrepid Studios employees. These are extraordinary professionals who would be amazing assets to any team. If you are interested in participating, we would be deeply grateful if you would fill out the participation form, so that we can coordinate with you. Ex-Intrepid Studios Job Faire - Recruiters & Hiring Managers Form
I wish I had better news. I wish our story had ended differently.

Margaret
 

Greyman

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It will be interesting to see what happens with this. Whoever is in charge now will want to continue developing the game. But with all the original devs gone and with the possibility that they are farming it out to cheap overseas devs, it doesn't sound promising at all. Especially if the people running the show now are are some sort of private equity firm with no actual gamers at the lead.

Quite the soap opera.

They will outsource it to India, enjoy your new BollywoodMMO.

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