Bioshock 4? Advent Future

Dunno, I finally got around to playing Burial at Sea and while I applaud Ken Levine for having the balls to even go for these kind of stories, he doesn't make all that great games. You could say he's slowly turning into Molyneaux. B:I would be better served as an RPG/adventure, not a shooter that tries very hard to build a believable city before you drown it in blood. Bioshock 2 was better shooter than the first one, it's just that the story was obviously nailed on top.

Zaphid_sl said:

Dunno, I finally got around to playing Burial at Sea and while I applaud Ken Levine for having the balls to even go for these kind of stories, he doesn't make all that great games. You could say he's slowly turning into Molyneaux. B:I would be better served as an RPG/adventure, not a shooter that tries very hard to build a believable city before you drown it in blood. Bioshock 2 was better shooter than the first one, it's just that the story was obviously nailed on top.

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Wasn't a fan of BAS. Played through it twice and the story just felt so weak. Like he had the idea for the ending/tie-in and they just half assed how you get there. I don't agree with you on B:I though. I still think it's about as perfect a game as I have ever played. The story, the atmosphere, and the game play all just "work" for me. There were things I would change about it but I can't even say for sure they would even make the game better "for me". Other than PS : T it's the only game I can say that about.

Aside from being stuck in a death loop v the ghost on 1999 after using your hand cannon ammo. That shit I would change. My fault for fucking around though.

Going to not pay attention to any "gameplay" videos after being burned by bioshock infinite, don't get me wrong love that game but it was nothing like they showed for many months leading up to the release.

I mean look at how fucking awesome this game looks compared to what was released:
BioShock Infinite First Gameplay Demo (2010) HD 1080p HQ Audio Bit Rate 320kbps - YouTube
and then again a year later:
Bioshock infinite 15 minutes demo e3 2011 HD - YouTube

I've yet to be impressed by any Bioshock. A more open world would be much more interesting.

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I felt ripped off by Bioshock Infinite and I didn't even pay for it.

I loved Infinite and thought 1 was just okay. Let's not talk about 2.

It's a divisive series. Most people who played it, loved it for the stories. Whereas I was never a huge fan of Ayn Rand and thought the first game was preachy and dragged out. Gameplay had too much consolitius for my taste. But the atmosphere and the twist was what put it through the roof for me. But here we are probably close to a decade later and I have yet to replay it in full.

Some edgy hipsters up in here

The first BioShock doesn't have much replay value. I replayed it just once prior to the second one. BioShock 2 was better gameplay with a far worse story. I think it made it worse overall, but I don't think it's shit like a lot of people here.

The Ancient_sl said:

Some edgy hipsters up in here

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Fuck off with that. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike Bioshock, and Jait summed it up pretty well for the first one. I didn't care much for Infinite gameplay either, but at least it was worth playing for the story, instead of being beaten over the head with Ayn Rand faggotry for 12 hours. 2 doesn't exist.

Anyway, the Deus Ex-ish, near-future dystopia Advent Future appears to be is my ideal setting for a game, but I'm holding off on any optimism about it until 2K says which studio is developing.

It's a pinnacle of the genre, up there with Half-Life and Half-Life 2. No game is flawless, but there are very few better let alone those that can compare. "Bioshock sucks" is some hipster how-cool-am-I shit to say.

i only like system shock bros you probably never heard of it

That's some retarded fanboi shit right there. Hurrr durrr, if you don't like what I like as much as I like it then you're a hipster1!!!!!!~

I loved HL2. Doesn't everyone?

Am i the only human being who liked 2? The second half of the first one was intentionally taunting of the player and its loss of agency.

2 was a human story from a dude in a robot suit.

1 is a classic as far as storytelling, atmosphere, setting, etc. go, but the gameplay is such a serious weak link that I would rather recommend people watch a LP or read the wiki than actually tell them to play it at this point. Whereas HL2 plays just fine for an FPS, if you aren't expecting CoD-style FPS at least.