Caligula The Ultimate Cut (1980/2023)

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Title: Caligula (1979)

Tagline: What would you have done if you had been given absolute power of life and death over everybody else in the whole world?

Genre: Drama, History, Romance

Director: Tinto Brass

Cast: Malcolm McDowell, Teresa Ann Savoy, Guido Mannari, John Gielgud, Peter O'Toole, Giancarlo Badessi, Bruno Brive, Adriana Asti, Leopoldo Trieste, Paolo Bonacelli, John Steiner, Mirella D'Angelo, Helen Mirren, Rick Parets, Paula Mitchell, Osiride Pevarello, Donato Placido, Anneka Di Lorenzo, Lori Wagner, Maria Mascarielli, Donatella Damiani, Mario Pascucci, Tony Casale

Release: 1979-08-14

Runtime: 156

Plot: The perversion behind imperial Rome, the epic story of Rome's mad Emporer. All the details of his cruel, bizarre reign are revealed right here: His unholy sexual passion for his sister, his marriage to Rome's most infamous prostitute, his fiendishly inventive means of disposing those who would oppose him, and more.

 

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movie adding to its crazy history.
writer gore vidal and director tinto brass lost control of the movie to penthouse founder bob guccione, who added more porn and shit. there are like 3 cuts of the movie already.

“Caligula: The Ultimate Cut,” which runs 157 minutes and was made using 96 hours of Brass’ original footage, is very different from Guccione’s cut. The revived film’s producer Thomas Negovan “Approached this new version from a neutral perspective,” say the production notes.

“His desire to elevate the actors gives greater strength to the narrative and provides a new approach to the Emperor Caligula’s madness,” they add and go on to point out: “Another feat is that not a single shot from the original film was used, which makes “Caligula – The Ultimate Cut” a completely new feature film.”

brass was trying to sue to stop its release, but guess that failed.
 
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Tinto Brass makes porn too. his GF Lina Romay starred in a lot of his films where she gets plowed and sucks cocks. if those Caligula scenes were added by Bob, then he must have added them because Brass wanted more money.
 

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Tinto Brass makes porn too. his GF Lina Romay starred in a lot of his films where she gets plowed and sucks cocks. if those Caligula scenes were added by Bob, then he must have added them because Brass wanted more money.

read a few different stories, each slightly different details but same end, i guess

But Caligula wasn’t supposed to be a porno movie. Not exactly. Yes, there would be ample nudity of both the male and female variety. And sure, Guccione had personally flown a bevy of his magazine’s voluptuous Penthouse Pets to Italy to appear as horny extras. But it didn’t start out as the hardcore film that would end up playing in theaters. It was still being hyped as a lusty historical drama from the sophisticated quill of Gore Vidal starring some of the world’s most respected actors. It would be Ben-Hur with titillating dollops of nudity. Not Ben-Hur with oral, anal, and money shots.
As the budget on Caligula started ballooning— eventually soaring past $17 million—Guccione began to get a little antsy. That’s when he decided to put his fantasies of becoming the next David O. Selzick on hold and reverted back to what he was and always had been: a realist, a pornographer. Sensing that there was no way he could recoup his costs on the film, he decided (unbeknownst to his writer, director, and stars) that he needed to take control of the film back from director Tinto Brass. Guccione snuck onto the set late at night and stealthily shot hours of graphic triple-X inserts to splice into the film. The result would be a weird, bloated Frankenstein monster of theatrical overacting and close-up copulating that all buts rubs the audience’s nose in gore and genitalia.
Brass decided not to focus much on Danilo Donati's elaborate sets, and intentionally kept the Penthouse Pets in the background during sex scenes, sometimes not filming them at all. Guccione later said that Brass, apparently as a joke, would focus on "fat, ugly and wrinkled old women" and have them play the "sensual parts" intended for the Penthouse Pets.[19] Brass and Guccione disagreed about the film's approach to sexual content; Guccione preferred unsimulated sexual content that Brass did not want to film
A few weeks after filming had concluded, Guccione and Giancarlo Lui returned to Rome along with several Penthouse Pets. Guccione and Lui "hired a skeleton crew, snuck back into the studios at night, raided the prop room"[19] and shot a number of hardcore sex scenes to be edited into the film.[32][33] The new unsimulated sex scenes included Penthouse pets Anneka Di Lorenzo and Lori Wagner, who appeared as supporting characters in Brass' original footage. Both performed a lesbian scene together.[19] Brass ultimately disowned the film[34] as a result, and the credits only list "principal photography by Tinto Brass".[36]
 
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Just noticed this now as I don't often venture into this part of the forums. Interesting that they are messing around with this thing again. I saw one version of it probably around 2005 or so. Definitely one of the strangest movies I've ever seen. A mix of some of the absolute best, high-brow, cream-of-the-crop British actors of the time and a sleezy porno. I never fully understood how they managed to sign up some of these names for this film until reading this thread. Interesting cinematic bait-and-switch.

The only parallel I can remember is George C. Scott in Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove. Kubrick always wanted Scott's character to be this goofy, crazed general but Scott would have none of it, wanted the role to be serious. So What Kubrick did was - and he was infamous for endless fucking takes of the same scenes - do multiple takes of each scene with him, but he told Scott that the best way to get to know the lines by heart was to recite them in different ways, thereby once the "real" shoots were made, they would come from the heart. So Scott would do his lines in a variety of manners, including goofy. Only, once it came to editing, Kubrick used the goofy ones, not the super-serious ones. Scott was not happy lol.
 
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