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Siliconemelons

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Should we start the convo that Zelda and Castlevania are not JRPGs?

Heheh

Jk jk


…about the convo…bc they aint
 

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jrpg's is one of the many many genres that the industry has tried it's best to abandon. whenever a youtuber goes down the rabbit hole of playing jrpg's he dives right into the SNES-PS1 era JRPG and not so much the shit that came after. it's sad.

i've been consistantly annoyed that jrpg's, RTS (including a campaign or PVE stuff), side scrollers, metroidvanias were largely abandoned in favor of more realistic graphicked beat-em-up style game play. fuck all that. it's sad we had like a 20 year lul in some of these genres really flexing again.

I STILl want another overhead-with-deep-mechanics style zelda game. where you get more tactically useful items and abilities rather than just a "lol wacky" item to beat the dungeon you're in and never t ouch again. and breakable weapons can eat a dick.

I've watched a few podcasts that deep-dived the making of and development of some old jrpgs (state of the arc podcast, they do like FF games, and other jrpg's). one thing they kept commenting on is that the early devs of jrpg's , like the FF6 era loved theater. so their games are like stage plays. then the next generation fancied themselves movie makers. t hey didn't care so much about systems or versitility of interaction, they wanted bombastic set pieces. and it's like that for a number of other genres

and the thing that baffles me the most is that for jrpgs, (and most of the other genres that are dead and abandoned) they were obsessed with making a new fucking game engine each time. any one of us would ahve played chronotrigger sprites, or ff6 sprites over and over, or FF7's materia system in more g ames. but t hey don't. death by not-invented-here

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Utnayan

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Go turn off the DLAA that it defaults to, makes the entire game look like dogshit.

Looks fucking incredible on normal DLSS with no resolution scaling

So is that DLSS with DLAA? I’m confused 😂
 

Zindan

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I find it hard to believe you never played:

Zelda
Chrono Trigger
Castlevania
Star Ocean
Xenogears
Suikoden

etc, etc, etc.

JRPGs were one of the biggest and most acclaimed, most saturated genres in console gaming until the mid-late 2000s. Most of us would have been console gamers before discovering EverQuest and most of us would have played a lot of JRPGs because the only other console genre that had close to as many big titles was probably fighting games.

I'd say kids born after 2000 might call JRPGs niche but most of the people on this forum would definitely not consider JRPGs niche. It was one of things many of us grew up on.
I never played those games, never had a SNES or PSx til PS4. I think the first turn based rpg I ever played was Honkai Star Rail. That game made at least think about playing others, thought about trying Metaphor ReFantasio, but haven't yet.
 
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Kirun

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Some of you fucking nerds lived REALLY sheltered gamer lives and it shows.

It's like a portion of this board literally went EQ all day > WoW all day > Random shit that gets popular/streamer plays. Sad!
 
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Caeden

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Man, I didn’t have a pc capable of playing EQ in 99. And when I did get one, I ended up mainlining d2 and unreal. Then wow found me. If I’d have found EQ I doubt I would have done as well as I did in college.

Consoles were cheap, comfortable then albeit with expensive software.
 

ronne

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Some of you fucking nerds lived REALLY sheltered gamer lives and it shows.

It's like a portion of this board literally went EQ all day > WoW all day > Random shit that gets popular/streamer plays. Sad!

The idea that this dude never played Chrono Trigger but has played Honkai Star Rail ?????

This is a fuckin pod person pretending to be human or something
 
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ronne

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jrpg's is one of the many many genres that the industry has tried it's best to abandon. whenever a youtuber goes down the rabbit hole of playing jrpg's he dives right into the SNES-PS1 era JRPG and not so much the shit that came after. it's sad.

The problem with JRPGs, almost exclusively, is how weeb-shit the genre became over the last 10-15 years.

It's not a mechanics or genre problem, it's that a huge chunk of the western audience just doesn't give a fuck about anime highschool protagonists or whatever the fuck.

It's a big part of why this game is so refreshing, as it's the first time in a long time there's been a game like this that isn't just pure weeb trash
 
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TJT

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JRPG plots were always batshit insane or incomprehensible. Even everyone's favorite FF3 is weird as shit but we can at least understand "yeah we gotta save the kingdom from evil."
 

RobXIII

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The problem with JRPGs, almost exclusively, is how weeb-shit the genre became over the last 10-15 years.

It's not a mechanics or genre problem, it's that a huge chunk of the western audience just doesn't give a fuck about anime highschool protagonists or whatever the fuck.

It's a big part of why this game is so refreshing, as it's the first time in a long time there's been a game like this that isn't just pure weeb trash

I've gotten a bit fatigued with some JRPGs (I gave up and youtube'd the ending to Metaphor after the 9th cookie cutter ""DUNGEON""), but this has both my attention and curiosity.
 

Caeden

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I’ve put several Tales and DQ games on my list just to take them off because the art style is off putting to me.
 

Chimney

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The problem with JRPGs, almost exclusively, is how weeb-shit the genre became over the last 10-15 years.

It's not a mechanics or genre problem, it's that a huge chunk of the western audience just doesn't give a fuck about anime highschool protagonists or whatever the fuck.

It's a big part of why this game is so refreshing, as it's the first time in a long time there's been a game like this that isn't just pure weeb trash

Agree 100% and I watch anime. I played Granblue Fantasy Relink towards end of last year and while I had fun with the game overall, the art/characters are just so cringy to me, but if it released with a more mature art style it would have been so much more popular and enjoyable.
 

Zindan

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Some of you fucking nerds lived REALLY sheltered gamer lives and it shows.

It's like a portion of this board literally went EQ all day > WoW all day > Random shit that gets popular/streamer plays. Sad!
More like Bards Tale / Various Amiga games / Doom / Quake / EQ / WoW / Various MMO's / Various other stuff. ;p
 
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Qhue

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Where the fuck did this come from?!? Absolutely no 'Basil Exposition' and you have to figure out everything via context in a good way. It has lots of 'systems' without being confusing and a top notch story.

I didn't even have this on my RADAR and now it's a GOTY contender for sure.
 
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TJT

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This game does a really good job at making the characters play completely differently. Most JRPG suffer from menu based combat just being lame and repetitive. Dodging, parrying, and interesting combat interactions and synergies with the various characters just really freshen it up.

Qhue Qhue What is Basil Exposition?
 

Cybsled

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Man, I didn’t have a pc capable of playing EQ in 99. And when I did get one, I ended up mainlining d2 and unreal. Then wow found me. If I’d have found EQ I doubt I would have done as well as I did in college.

Consoles were cheap, comfortable then albeit with expensive software.

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