College Football 2026-2027 Sorsby Finally Won a Bet

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He gave up his college eligibility in order to apply to the supplemental draft, his college career is toast. His lawyer is already threatening to sue the NFL.
 
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Maybe don't bet on your own goddamn team, fuckwad. This is all organizations involved telling him he fucked up.
 

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He gave up his college eligibility in order to apply to the supplemental draft, his college career is toast. His lawyer is already threatening to sue the NFL.
"Eligibility" as defined by who?... .Oh yeah, the NCAA. Who they already have ONE injunction against declaring him ineligible, do you think he's a gambler enough to go for two??



Don't answer that.
 
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NFL reporters like Florio are already starting the, "NFL just makes up the rules as it goes", "This doesn't match the CBA", "precedence has already been set by NFL inaction on the Boutte case".

I'm a bit surprised; I'm sure Kessler is foaming at the mouth to get a shot at the NFL, though. Dude is going to have some time to kill before the next draft!
 

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NFL reporters like Florio are already starting the, "NFL just makes up the rules as it goes", "This doesn't match the CBA", "precedence has already been set by NFL inaction on the Boutte case".

I'm a bit surprised; I'm sure Kessler is foaming at the mouth to get a shot at the NFL, though. Dude is going to have some time to kill before the next draft!

The NFL is going to fucking eviscerate them if they try, and I hope they do. Here is the full letter from NFL's lead council to Sorsby and his attorney. Given the tone and tenor of the argument, Sorsby should be scared that he isn't going to be drafted AT ALL next April.

Dear Mr. Sorsby: We are in receipt of your Petition for Special Eligibility, dated June 16, 2026 (“Petition”). As announced earlier today, the League has elected not to conduct a Supplemental Draft this year. Under our Collective Bargaining Agreement, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to
conduct a Supplemental Draft in any given year. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years and, prior to your submission, the League had no plans to do so this year, as no other player has sought entry.

Your Petition—filed three business days before the deadline, without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions—does not provide a basis for the League to alter those plans. The issues presented by your Petition are too significant, and too closely tied to the League’s core integrity interests, to permit meaningful review within the timeline presented. The sole reasons identified in your Petition for seeking entry into the Supplemental Draft are that you have been “declared ineligible” by the NCAA, have “exhausted all of [your] avenues to continue in the NCAA,” and “want to now play in the NFL.” The Petition provides no information regarding the basis for, or timing of, the NCAA’s decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May 2026 the NCAA issued a determination declaring you permanently ineligible from participation in college athletics, based on a sustained pattern of improper gambling activity during your collegiate career at three different universities.

The League does not have the complete record of the NCAA’s investigation, and you did not provide any such materials with your Petition. Available information nonetheless indicates that, over the course of your collegiate career, you knowingly engaged in repeated and significant violations of NCAA rules designed to preserve the integrity of athletic competition. Reported conduct includes placing wagers on your own team and teammates and, to avoid detection, establishing or funding accounts in the names of intermediaries who placed bets on your behalf. There are also reports that you may have violated state criminal law. Your Petition does not address these matters. Nor does it demonstrate accountability for your conduct or indicate whether, or how, you would adhere to the League’s rules and policies governing the integrity of competition. Instead, even after receiving notice of the NCAA’s decision rescinding your college eligibility in May, you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, and you pursued entry into the NFL only after abandoning those efforts.

As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability. By all accounts, you are a talented player with the potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry into the NFL through the 2027 NFL Annual Draft.

Sincerely, Lawrence P. Ferazani, Jr.
 
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The NFL is going to fucking eviscerate them if they try, and I hope they do. Here is the full letter from NFL's lead council to Sorsby and his attorney. Given the tone and tenor of the argument, Sorsby should be scared that he isn't going to be drafted AT ALL next April.

Dear Mr. Sorsby: We are in receipt of your Petition for Special Eligibility, dated June 16, 2026 (“Petition”). As announced earlier today, the League has elected not to conduct a Supplemental Draft this year. Under our Collective Bargaining Agreement, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to
conduct a Supplemental Draft in any given year. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years and, prior to your submission, the League had no plans to do so this year, as no other player has sought entry.

Your Petition—filed three business days before the deadline, without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions—does not provide a basis for the League to alter those plans. The issues presented by your Petition are too significant, and too closely tied to the League’s core integrity interests, to permit meaningful review within the timeline presented. The sole reasons identified in your Petition for seeking entry into the Supplemental Draft are that you have been “declared ineligible” by the NCAA, have “exhausted all of [your] avenues to continue in the NCAA,” and “want to now play in the NFL.” The Petition provides no information regarding the basis for, or timing of, the NCAA’s decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May 2026 the NCAA issued a determination declaring you permanently ineligible from participation in college athletics, based on a sustained pattern of improper gambling activity during your collegiate career at three different universities.

The League does not have the complete record of the NCAA’s investigation, and you did not provide any such materials with your Petition. Available information nonetheless indicates that, over the course of your collegiate career, you knowingly engaged in repeated and significant violations of NCAA rules designed to preserve the integrity of athletic competition. Reported conduct includes placing wagers on your own team and teammates and, to avoid detection, establishing or funding accounts in the names of intermediaries who placed bets on your behalf. There are also reports that you may have violated state criminal law. Your Petition does not address these matters. Nor does it demonstrate accountability for your conduct or indicate whether, or how, you would adhere to the League’s rules and policies governing the integrity of competition. Instead, even after receiving notice of the NCAA’s decision rescinding your college eligibility in May, you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, and you pursued entry into the NFL only after abandoning those efforts.

As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability. By all accounts, you are a talented player with the potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry into the NFL through the 2027 NFL Annual Draft.

Sincerely, Lawrence P. Ferazani, Jr.
Yup. NFL is 100% in the right here. They have ZERO obligation to hold a supplemental draft. Kicking this can back to college and the NCAA is the correct course of action. And I hope Sorsby continues to fuck over the NCAA every chance he gets.
 
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The NFL is going to fucking eviscerate them if they try, and I hope they do. Here is the full letter from NFL's lead council to Sorsby and his attorney. Given the tone and tenor of the argument, Sorsby should be scared that he isn't going to be drafted AT ALL next April.

Dear Mr. Sorsby: We are in receipt of your Petition for Special Eligibility, dated June 16, 2026 (“Petition”). As announced earlier today, the League has elected not to conduct a Supplemental Draft this year. Under our Collective Bargaining Agreement, the League retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to
conduct a Supplemental Draft in any given year. The League has not conducted such a draft for several years and, prior to your submission, the League had no plans to do so this year, as no other player has sought entry.

Your Petition—filed three business days before the deadline, without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions—does not provide a basis for the League to alter those plans. The issues presented by your Petition are too significant, and too closely tied to the League’s core integrity interests, to permit meaningful review within the timeline presented. The sole reasons identified in your Petition for seeking entry into the Supplemental Draft are that you have been “declared ineligible” by the NCAA, have “exhausted all of [your] avenues to continue in the NCAA,” and “want to now play in the NFL.” The Petition provides no information regarding the basis for, or timing of, the NCAA’s decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May 2026 the NCAA issued a determination declaring you permanently ineligible from participation in college athletics, based on a sustained pattern of improper gambling activity during your collegiate career at three different universities.

The League does not have the complete record of the NCAA’s investigation, and you did not provide any such materials with your Petition. Available information nonetheless indicates that, over the course of your collegiate career, you knowingly engaged in repeated and significant violations of NCAA rules designed to preserve the integrity of athletic competition. Reported conduct includes placing wagers on your own team and teammates and, to avoid detection, establishing or funding accounts in the names of intermediaries who placed bets on your behalf. There are also reports that you may have violated state criminal law. Your Petition does not address these matters. Nor does it demonstrate accountability for your conduct or indicate whether, or how, you would adhere to the League’s rules and policies governing the integrity of competition. Instead, even after receiving notice of the NCAA’s decision rescinding your college eligibility in May, you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, and you pursued entry into the NFL only after abandoning those efforts.

As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability. By all accounts, you are a talented player with the potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry into the NFL through the 2027 NFL Annual Draft.

Sincerely, Lawrence P. Ferazani, Jr.
Sounds like they'll file with the NFLPA, but due to the CBA if the NFLPA doesn't assist, I'm not really sure what Kessler could do - but I'm not a super-lawyer, and he is, so who knows.

I'd imagine Sorsby will need to be preparing for the 2027 NFL draft; I'd imagine his agent and representation will begin the QB workout circuit, ESPN image rehabilitation pipeline, in hopes they can keep him in that 3rd round range for next year.

If the NCAA was smart they could do some 4D chess and entice some small school into trying to take Sorsby back and then the NCAA can go back on the public outcry tour to try to pull at the heartstrings of Congress again.
 
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Yup. NFL is 100% in the right here. They have ZERO obligation to hold a supplemental draft. Kicking this can back to college and the NCAA is the correct course of action. And I hope Sorsby continues to fuck over the NCAA every chance he gets.

I think his bigger problem now is that the Big XII hasn't rescinded it's lawsuit to make sure that they can keep him from playing no matter how badly the NCAA gets fucked.
 
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I think his bigger problem now is that the Big XII hasn't rescinded it's lawsuit to make sure that they can keep him from playing no matter how badly the NCAA gets fucked.
I'm perfectly ok with conferences taking over enforcement from the NCAA. Whatever destroys the NCAA the fastest is good to me.
 

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Texas would kick Arch off the team if that happened, and I would be extremely disappointed if they didn’t. UT does not fuck around with this stuff. Really, only one school has been so ethically bankrupt as to play a player caught gambling on football, Tech.
I think the only correct thing here is that it would never happen at UT. Arch might be betting but UT has the stroke to keep it from being a story or getting sanctioned.

Ricky Williams was constantly high while at school and caught many times.

Whatever happened to Vince young. Not sure what he was doing but he went off the rails as soon as he was away from UT handlers.

In the last season of the SWC UT played with an ineligible player for the entire season and nothing happened to them.

The only difference is that UT can sweep that shit under the rug.
 

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None of those situations are remotely comparable to gambling on your own team and players.

Weed, no accusations against VY, and a guy defrauded Texas, not Texas knowingly playing an ineligible player.

Texas, like all big programs, was good at handling minor criminal stuff (that doesn’t happen nearly as much anymore due to all the cameras, social media, and, in Texas’ case, a much more hostile city gov). You didn’t even reference the good stuff.
 
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It was off the top of my head.

Cincinatti covered up soresbys gambling for 2 years. Don't act like UT couldn't have done an even better job.
 

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It was off the top of my head.

Cincinatti covered up soresbys gambling for 2 years. Don't act like UT couldn't have done an even better job.
There is no evidence Cincinnati covered up any gambling. Per court docs, Cincinnati was alerted about Sorsby’s activity on a daily fantasy site in 2024, questioned him, he responded the site denied him access, and they gave him additional gambling awareness training and closed the matter. Cincinnati claims no alerts included impermissible betting.
 
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There is no evidence Cincinnati covered up any gambling. Per court docs, Cincinnati was alerted about Sorsby’s activity on a daily fantasy site in 2024, questioned him, he responded the site denied him access, and they gave him additional gambling awareness training and closed the matter. Cincinnati claims no alerts included impermissible betting.
If you actually believe that story, then UT completely failed you as an institution of education.
 
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If you actually believe that story, then UT completely failed you as an institution of education.
What the prohitbet warning contained is easily verifiable by the NCAA. If they had an alert he gambled, hid it, and didn’t report it to the NCAA, they are going to get absolutely bodied. I don’t think the schools are going to screw around on gambling.
 

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What the prohitbet warning contained is easily verifiable by the NCAA. If they had an alert he gambled, hid it, and didn’t report it to the NCAA, they are going to get absolutely bodied. I don’t think the schools are going to screw around on gambling.
Yes, the warnings didn't show impermissible bets, but the fact Cincinnati did LESS THAN NOTHING to investigate Sorsby's betting when he placed:

The court filings show that Sorsby placed at least 165 bets, totaling at least $38,000, while at Cincinnati and transferred more than $60,000 to a friend to deposit in a sportsbook account they shared.

is an absolute joke. Cinci CHOSE to look the other way and blamed the alert system. If you believe anything else, you're a complete dumbass.

 
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do betting sites narc on student athletes or what? how do people get caught for this shit?
Betting sites do in fact narc on athletes. The individual sites use analytics platforms and hire forensic teams to track; I believe the sports organizations actually get reports fairly often about betting activity for their athletes or organizational employees. Most of these sites usually require pretty clear identifiers such as last 4 of SSN, at least. I believe the reason is due to federal and state laws regarding gambling, and that the sites can have some liability. At one point I supported/worked relatively closely with a governmental entity that included a team of financial forensics analysts and I know they would get tipped off/brought in to assist the FBI involving illegal gambling - I wouldn't expect it would be much different with the gambling sites.

I'd bet catching student athletes is more difficult because I doubt the sites receive a bigot list for student athletes the same way they do for sports organizations. With a little obfuscation, such as opening accounts with parents/family member information, I'd imagine it would take some time. Tax reporting is probably a big signal for the governmental watchdogs. I believe at many universities/NIL programs, they now actually push student athletes into having special apps on their phones to monitor social media, classroom attendance etc. Other teammates and staffers talk - it wouldn't be that surprising if someone from his previous schools notified the necessary parties after he burned a bridge. The timing lines up perfectly for that, but it could also be coincidental. Who knows.

Edit: It appears a local law enforcement entity notified the sports gambling book, and then the book notified the NCAA. Sorbsy's agent claims Cincinnati was notified in August '25, zero idea if that is true or just agent posturing.
 
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It would make sense for sports books to want to know if an athlete or coach was making bets. But they probably don't care until they start betting on their own team to either lose or not cover a spread.
 
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