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He uses this for the last 75% or so of the run and it seems absurdly powerful. Chunks everything even at SL1. He has the low health attack buff on most of the time, maybe that's the reason for all the damage.

Why go through almost all of the game as an ugly-ass rotted husk, though? If you're never gonna die, just be a human and wear that. The rotted form is a punishment for dying.

This really makes me want to go and do my 93rd Dark Souls 1 replay. Blacksmith Giant Hammer playthrough?
Do you get it from killing the blacksmith?
 

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Do you get it from killing the blacksmith?

Looks like it yep.

He starts with a hand axe, uses that until he gets a club (Reinforced Club, I think), uses that until he reaches the blacksmith, then uses this hammer for the rest. He also had the blacksmith turn the club into a Divine version real quick, and switched to it whenever he had to kill undead. Rest of the time it was blacksmith hammer all the way.

Very efficient playthrough, looked like fun. I managed to SL1 this with Pyromancer (easier than you might think) and ranged fire attacks. Pooling all your normal leveling souls into strengthening the Pyromancer Flame instead makes your spells devastating. Kind of interested in trying a melee SL1, especially if this hammer has some sort of wonky scaling that doesn't need much help.
 

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Looks like it yep.

He starts with a hand axe, uses that until he gets a club (Reinforced Club, I think), uses that until he reaches the blacksmith, then uses this hammer for the rest. He also had the blacksmith turn the club into a Divine version real quick, and switched to it whenever he had to kill undead. Rest of the time it was blacksmith hammer all the way.

Very efficient playthrough, looked like fun. I managed to SL1 this with Pyromancer (easier than you might think) and ranged fire attacks. Pooling all your normal leveling souls into strengthening the Pyromancer Flame instead makes your spells devastating. Kind of interested in trying a melee SL1, especially if this hammer has some sort of wonky scaling that doesn't need much help.
Nice! I’ll have to re download it and try.

with DS3, start off with the mercenary class and if you dual wield it, you are have the dual sellsword blades. Hit L2 and it’s a VERY high damage double attack. You can play the entire game with the dual sellsword blades. My last play through and beating every boss fight for the base game was under 4 hours with it.
 

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Nice! I’ll have to re download it and try.

with DS3, start off with the mercenary class and if you dual wield it, you are have the dual sellsword blades. Hit L2 and it’s a VERY high damage double attack. You can play the entire game with the dual sellsword blades. My last play through and beating every boss fight for the base game was under 4 hours with it.

I think Dual Sellsword is what I ended up with later on in Souls 3. One of those "how is it this good" noob/early weapons, like the Bandit Curved Sword (can't remember what it was called, the rusty-looking curved swords with a ton of bleed buildup) in Elden Ring. Get two of those, put Blood ashes on them to ramp up their procs, and just destroy the game. There's also the Beastman Curved Sword late in the game that has a similar effect and might be a little better, don't remember.

Should clarify that the Souls 1 hammer is from the GIANT blacksmith, not the Parish one. Would need to go back to the Parish one to upgrade it, after O&S. Can buy everything needed to max it out at +5 beforehand. Buy all the Twinkling Titanites needed from the Giant Blacksmith (10 I guess?) before slaying him for the hammer, go defeat O&S, warp back to Parish and max it out, roll the rest of the game.

Trying to decide if I want to do a NG+ with the hammer (i.e. go kill the guy at the end of my old NG file and start a NG+) OR try doing an SL1 run from the beginning and get the hammer/use it.

Problem is that it takes quite a bit of time to get to the hammer, the O&S area is like a third of the way through the game even if you beeline to it.

Edit: Also, the hammer requires 16 str to one-hand it, so it might not be usable on an SL1 run unless you two-hand it. Unless someone starts with 16 str, but then they probably won't be SL1, it would just be a "no leveling" run.
 

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I think Dual Sellsword is what I ended up with later on in Souls 3. One of those "how is it this good" noob/early weapons, like the Bandit Curved Sword (can't remember what it was called, the rusty-looking curved swords with a ton of bleed buildup) in Elden Ring. Get two of those, put Blood ashes on them to ramp up their procs, and just destroy the game. There's also the Beastman Curved Sword late in the game that has a similar effect and might be a little better, don't remember.

Should clarify that the Souls 1 hammer is from the GIANT blacksmith, not the Parish one. Would need to go back to the Parish one to upgrade it, after O&S. Can buy everything needed to max it out at +5 beforehand. Buy all the Twinkling Titanites needed from the Giant Blacksmith (10 I guess?) before slaying him for the hammer, go defeat O&S, warp back to Parish and max it out, roll the rest of the game.

Trying to decide if I want to do a NG+ with the hammer (i.e. go kill the guy at the end of my old NG file and start a NG+) OR try doing an SL1 run from the beginning and get the hammer/use it.

Problem is that it takes quite a bit of time to get to the hammer, the O&S area is like a third of the way through the game even if you beeline to it.

Edit: Also, the hammer requires 16 str to one-hand it, so it might not be usable on an SL1 run unless you two-hand it. Unless someone starts with 16 str, but then they probably won't be SL1, it would just be a "no leveling" run.
Two hand ungabunga only is the way to go in every souls game
 

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I think Dual Sellsword is what I ended up with later on in Souls 3. One of those "how is it this good" noob/early weapons, like the Bandit Curved Sword (can't remember what it was called, the rusty-looking curved swords with a ton of bleed buildup) in Elden Ring. Get two of those, put Blood ashes on them to ramp up their procs, and just destroy the game. There's also the Beastman Curved Sword late in the game that has a similar effect and might be a little better, don't remember.

Should clarify that the Souls 1 hammer is from the GIANT blacksmith, not the Parish one. Would need to go back to the Parish one to upgrade it, after O&S. Can buy everything needed to max it out at +5 beforehand. Buy all the Twinkling Titanites needed from the Giant Blacksmith (10 I guess?) before slaying him for the hammer, go defeat O&S, warp back to Parish and max it out, roll the rest of the game.

Trying to decide if I want to do a NG+ with the hammer (i.e. go kill the guy at the end of my old NG file and start a NG+) OR try doing an SL1 run from the beginning and get the hammer/use it.

Problem is that it takes quite a bit of time to get to the hammer, the O&S area is like a third of the way through the game even if you beeline to it.

Edit: Also, the hammer requires 16 str to one-hand it, so it might not be usable on an SL1 run unless you two-hand it. Unless someone starts with 16 str, but then they probably won't be SL1, it would just be a "no leveling" run.
I'm retarded. They're called the sellsword twin blades.

Here is me playing the final boss for DS3 base game a few years ago w/ the sellsword twinblades. This is on XSX w/ a controller and a 1ms 1440p monitor. (I have since built a gaming pc, but I dont own this game on Steam).

I've beat Elden Ring 4x. Twice with strength melee only (using the Greatsword) and then twice with the Faith/Strength Blasphemous Blade. Blasphemous Blade is honestly OP.

Ive never beaten DS1, though. I've beaten DS3 maybe a dozen times but I'm not strong enough for DS1, I guess. If I had a PS, Id for sure play BB. I bought it for my brother (another state), and we play it when Im visiting him.
 
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I'm retarded. They're called the sellsword twin blades.

Here is me playing the final boss for DS3 base game a few years ago w/ the sellsword twinblades. This is on XSX w/ a controller and a 1ms 1440p monitor. (I have since built a gaming pc, but I dont own this game on Steam).

I've beat Elden Ring 4x. Twice with strength melee only (using the Greatsword) and then twice with the Faith/Strength Blasphemous Blade. Blasphemous Blade is honestly OP.

Ive never beaten DS1, though. I've beaten DS3 maybe a dozen times but I'm not strong enough for DS1, I guess. If I had a PS, Id for sure play BB. I bought it for my brother (another state), and we play it when Im visiting him.

They are all masterpieces, including DS2, imo. I would love to be able to play them again for the first time.

Granted, I was obsessed with the Kings Field games way back when and this series just took that idea to the next level.

Cannot WAIT for whatever single player RPG they announce next - hoping it doesn't take too much longer.
 
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Okay fuck that

I could never do my homie like that

I swear I could play all three games on loop forever.

Where did the "meh" feeling for ds2 come from anyways? I loved it.
I accidentally killed the blacksmith on my first run through of DS1. I thought he was an enemy at first, attacked him then immediately stopped but he immediately turned red and I had to restart the game. No matter how many times I respawned he wanted me dead.

On later games, they fixed that where you have to intentionally attack a friendly 3-4x before they turn violent.
 

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I'm retarded. They're called the sellsword twin blades.

Here is me playing the final boss for DS3 base game a few years ago w/ the sellsword twinblades. This is on XSX w/ a controller and a 1ms 1440p monitor. (I have since built a gaming pc, but I dont own this game on Steam).

I've beat Elden Ring 4x. Twice with strength melee only (using the Greatsword) and then twice with the Faith/Strength Blasphemous Blade. Blasphemous Blade is honestly OP.

Ive never beaten DS1, though. I've beaten DS3 maybe a dozen times but I'm not strong enough for DS1, I guess. If I had a PS, Id for sure play BB. I bought it for my brother (another state), and we play it when Im visiting him.


I find DS1 to be the easiest out of all of them. Four Kings and Bed of Chaos are the only parts I really have trouble with. Ornstein and Smough are super-overrated; they have very little HP.

I had way way way more trouble with DS3. Matter of fact DS3 is the only one of the seven Fromsoft Soulsbornekiros that I didn't platinum or beat all of the bosses. I wasn't able to beat Midir or Gael. There's no help in that game the way there is in Elden for the similarly-tough Bayle and Radahn. So yeah, DS3 sits unfinished still.

I'd give DS1 another shot if I were you, it's pretty tremendous and if you've finished DS3 a bunch of times then you can handle DS1. Just need to adjust to the combat and movement being slower and more deliberate. Might not apply on an XBox, but on PS5 you can quit out and do backup saves with the cloud; use this at a boss door if there's a bad run-back, or if you're about to slay a single-spawn enemy with an uncommon drop (namely the Black Knight on the rampart in Parish that drops the greatsword... that and the blacksmith hammer are two things I'd like to play around with on the next go)
 

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There's some context though lol. Dark Souls 1 when it came out was really hard. But if you've played the other games it's piss easy. Especially if you did Bloodborne, Sekiro or Elden Ring. In the last couple years I replayed all 7 games and dark souls 1 was basically a joke. I think I beat it like 10h or something without really remembering where anything was.
 
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Where did the "meh" feeling for ds2 come from anyways? I loved it.

DS2 is metal as fuck. The story is good, the world is full of atmosphere, it is WAY prettier than DS1. It also introduces a lot of the mechanics that ER used later to great effect. I'd say it's the worst of the 3 (4 if we're including Demon, though I'd be more likely to group Demon with Bloodborne) but I'm not sure why I would say that. I guess it's because the world design is more like a regular game and the "levels" don't feel like a living interconnected world. Being able to warp everywhere is part of that, and the wildly different biomes is another factor. DS1 has incredible interconnectivity and the world design makes total sense. You really have a feel for where you are. DS2 is more like a trip through a bunch of different worlds. DS3 is back to feeling like one big interconnected world and has some amazing vistas, just mind-blowing "first steps into Anor Londo" level scenes. I wish half of it didn't have that "ash" filter over the visuals though.
 

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I find DS1 to be the easiest out of all of them. Four Kings and Bed of Chaos are the only parts I really have trouble with. Ornstein and Smough are super-overrated; they have very little HP.

I had way way way more trouble with DS3. Matter of fact DS3 is the only one of the seven Fromsoft Soulsbornekiros that I didn't platinum or beat all of the bosses. I wasn't able to beat Midir or Gael. There's no help in that game the way there is in Elden for the similarly-tough Bayle and Radahn. So yeah, DS3 sits unfinished still.

I'd give DS1 another shot if I were you, it's pretty tremendous and if you've finished DS3 a bunch of times then you can handle DS1. Just need to adjust to the combat and movement being slower and more deliberate. Might not apply on an XBox, but on PS5 you can quit out and do backup saves with the cloud; use this at a boss door if there's a bad run-back, or if you're about to slay a single-spawn enemy with an uncommon drop (namely the Black Knight on the rampart in Parish that drops the greatsword... that and the blacksmith hammer are two things I'd like to play around with on the next go)
Orn and Smoo were the only DS1 bosses that really blocked my progress in my first playthrough.

Dancer did the same in my first ds3 playthrough. I love that fight tho... Prob one of my faves.

Ds2 it's the trash mobs that fucking ruin me lol.