Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs
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Cinge
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I am curious where you are getting the 100k a month from? Which would be pretty crazy, internet says it has an average player count of ~1700, with a peak of 4.5k.
Also is it a "donation" server, when it created its own in game currency to then sell for $? That's not donation, that's a business.
Also is it a "donation" server, when it created its own in game currency to then sell for $? That's not donation, that's a business.
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idk someone said it in this thread. Like all numbers i took them at face value and extrapolated what that would actually mean. ie when people said eq was pulling in 20mil per quarter which, is just fucking ridiculous. That would mean either:
A) all the financials are fake and this is a money laundering operation
B) The average EQ player is spending 2k a month in krono, their entire disability check.
but then people posted the actual numbers and it turns out that 20mil a quarter is bullshit. EQ has 1mil a month in revenue, which is still a shit ton of whales forking over hundreds a month but it's not outside the realm of feasible.
that 100k/month on THJ could be pure speculation but they said 20k players and 100k a month in donations that's $5 dollars a month per player which is literally 30x less expensive than live servers so i can believe it.
A) all the financials are fake and this is a money laundering operation
B) The average EQ player is spending 2k a month in krono, their entire disability check.
but then people posted the actual numbers and it turns out that 20mil a quarter is bullshit. EQ has 1mil a month in revenue, which is still a shit ton of whales forking over hundreds a month but it's not outside the realm of feasible.
that 100k/month on THJ could be pure speculation but they said 20k players and 100k a month in donations that's $5 dollars a month per player which is literally 30x less expensive than live servers so i can believe it.
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Ok, if EQ is 21% of Daybreaks revenue then it is in the 1.3m per month range. That probably also includes EQ2, so EQ1 is probably around 1m per month. Sad times. Wonder if there is a breakdown between EQ1 and EQ2.
The 20m that gets thrown around is not bullshit, the 20m is the total revenue of Daybreak for quarter 1 2025 from their audited financial statements. EQ however only accounts for 4-4.5m of that 20m and EQ2 is also a portion of that. Had no idea DC online was so much bigger than EQ.
The 20m that gets thrown around is not bullshit, the 20m is the total revenue of Daybreak for quarter 1 2025 from their audited financial statements. EQ however only accounts for 4-4.5m of that 20m and EQ2 is also a portion of that. Had no idea DC online was so much bigger than EQ.
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Jysin
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re the figures on THJ revenues, their donation page (whatever platform they were using to collect the donations) had a running counter on donations.
6/29 2:14pm
Soandso donated $50
and one could just scroll the donation info.
I would link it here, but they have since taken down the EoM donation page after the lawsuit kicked off.
6/29 2:14pm
Soandso donated $50
and one could just scroll the donation info.
I would link it here, but they have since taken down the EoM donation page after the lawsuit kicked off.
Sachee
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Daybreak owns the D&D Online ip now too, which I actually quite enjoyed during my time playing it. They own a pretty solid lineup of mmos now.
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Fangbreaker is Restricted Truebox which means you can have at max two accounts running, and they each need their own computers. They do not enforce the 2 account limit at all though.
Fangbreaker is odd in that truebox ends with the launch of Planes of Power, because that's the end of their 'extended start' of content. There is the idea that after PoP, Fangbreaker just becomes a worse Oakwynd (encounter locking, and bonuses but only for specific zones instead of server-wide). That would lend to the idea that this year is a throw away year where they gave us a glorified Tormax and are not expecting it to survive past the next TLP cycle.
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Evernothing
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It's my fault. I should have created the thread sooner so that we could be China#1.
^ this
If we could polymarket bet on this, I would haha.
Also, feels like the ban waves are getting more common too? Was one before Fangbreaker dropped then another one what 4 weeks later? since when did they do that at anytime in the last year.
I figure krono alters that average some just because you're paying over what the monthly sub is. Once I had a steady flow, I never paid my sub outside the initial couple months for years.
Pharone
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Did THJ fuck up by accepting money? Yeah. Duh. You can't make money off of someone else's software.
Did Everquest's Fangbreaker server suffer from THJ's emu server? Fuck no. Fangbreaker was a pile of dogshit from design to creation. Fangbreaker was a failure because of the people at Darkpaw Games making one bad decision after another.
There's no question that THJ is fucked, but for DBG to blame them for Fangbreaker being a failure is beyond laughable.
Did Everquest's Fangbreaker server suffer from THJ's emu server? Fuck no. Fangbreaker was a pile of dogshit from design to creation. Fangbreaker was a failure because of the people at Darkpaw Games making one bad decision after another.
There's no question that THJ is fucked, but for DBG to blame them for Fangbreaker being a failure is beyond laughable.
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I don't why people keep commenting stuff like this when it's not true. Owning the copyright to something doesn't mean you can tear up older licensing agreements among other things.
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Cinge
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I thought it was funny. Lets make a mostly dud TLP right after a wildly successful one. I say mostly, because I think the random hot zone thing is a good idea.
I'd say this is normal corporate behavior, but this is just normal human behavior that covers so many aspects of life. Never take self responsibility when there is a perfectly good 3rd party you can point at and blame them instead.
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Control
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So I guess THJ will be in the clear as soon as they break out that licensing agreement that they've been sitting on?
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Breakdown
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and if you had two wheels you would be a gay bicycle.
I don’t think anyone can even come close to understanding what kind of point you are trying to make.
