Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs

Burns

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You did mock trial in highschool and watched a twitch stream is so comical that nobody is going to take you in good faith. Especially after some of the worst analogies in the history of analogy.
What are you talking about? I read the analogies and learned that if my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike.
 
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Mrniceguy

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You did mock trial in highschool and watched a twitch stream is so comical that nobody is going to take you in good faith. Especially after some of the worst analogies in the history of analogy.

I get it you're a retard so you can't debate in good faith. You don't need to keep repeating yourself.
 

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You can use "good faith" all you want but you're going to have to come down to reality when that server is shut down soon.
 

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I really hope daybreak updates their filings to add this retarded back and fourth...

someone needs to add some racism so that they ingest that too.
 
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I really hope daybreak updates their filings to add this retarded back and fourth...

someone needs to add some racism so that they ingest that too.
ThJ is just spicing up the stale everquest ip. Daybreak needs to welcome in more diverse gaming experiences, as it strengthens the brand.
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Daybreak can't say we think EMUs are great and they make our IP more valuable in interviews. Then say they violate our copyright in court and cause harm.

Yes, they absolutely can. It's specifically written into the Copyright Act that the agreement must be in writing.

204. Execution of transfers of copyright ownership​

(a) A transfer of copyright ownership, other than by operation of law, is not valid unless an instrument of conveyance, or a note or memorandum of the transfer, is in writing and signed by the owner of the rights conveyed or such owner’s duly authorized agent.

And even more specific to your retarded idea that Smed's interview 15 means ago means anything today

(e) Priority between Conflicting Transfer of Ownership and Nonexclusive License.—A nonexclusive license, whether recorded or not, prevails over a conflicting transfer of copyright ownership

if the license is evidenced by a written instrument signed by the owner of the rights licensed or such owner’s duly authorized agent

, and if

(1) the license was taken before execution of the transfer; or

(2) the license was taken in good faith before recordation of the transfer and without notice of it.

The funnest part is that most of us don't give a shit either way on this, we just love dunking on retards
 
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I'll miss this server. Haven't played in months but I can't remember the last time I had that much fun in EQ. Good community, very active, great economy. If it wasn't on its last legs I think I'd come back and play for a few more months.

It's also too bad. I don't think I'd pay to play what live EQ is anymore, but I'd happily donate to THJ (and did). Why there isn't space for two basically mutually exclusive concepts I can't really understand. Just seems more sour grapes by Daybreak than anything else.
 
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Yes, they absolutely can. It's specifically written into the Copyright Act that the agreement must be in writing.

"204. Execution of transfers of copyright ownership"

They're not talking about transferring ownership clown. Nobody is claiming EQEMU are the legal owners of the Everquest. Estoppel - Wikipedia.

Even if what THJ is doing violates copyright law they can't be sued because Daybreak lead them to believe it was okay for them to operate.
 
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Ambiturner

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"204. Execution of transfers of copyright ownership"

They're not talking about transferring ownership clown. Nobody is claiming EQEMU are the legal owners of the Everquest. Estoppel - Wikipedia.

Even if what THJ is doing violates copyright law they can't be sued because Daybreak lead them to believe it was okay for them to operate.

Funny how you ignore the second quote which I even said was more specific to your retarded argument.
 

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"204. Execution of transfers of copyright ownership"

They're not talking about transferring ownership clown. Nobody is claiming EQEMU are the legal owners of the Everquest. Estoppel - Wikipedia.

Even if what THJ is doing violates copyright law they can't be sued because Daybreak lead them to believe it was okay for them to operate.

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I was a Mock trial nerd in HS, which gives me some basic legal knowledge of how the whole process works.

I'm familiar with EMU legality stuff because of SenpaiSomething the lead Dev for Project Diablo 2. Talks about this stuff on stream whenever someone complains that they need a Legally obtained CD key to play PD2. It's also what Nintendo's head Copyright Lawyer says about legal vs illegal EMUs.

I was unaware that Equitable Estoppel was a thing, but i'm familiar with what promissory Estoppel is because i own like 250k in Wizard Poker cards. It's the same basic principle, you can't say one thing in public then say the opposite in court. Daybreak can't say we think EMUs are great and they make our IP more valuable in interviews. Then say they violate our copyright in court and cause harm. They can't say you're allowed to Changed the serverhost.txt file on their public forums. Then say you can't change it in court. This ruins every part of their case besides trademark infringment. Daybreaks case will get tossed because of lack of evidence.
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"204. Execution of transfers of copyright ownership"

They're not talking about transferring ownership clown. Nobody is claiming EQEMU are the legal owners of the Everquest. Estoppel - Wikipedia.

Even if what THJ is doing violates copyright law they can't be sued because Daybreak lead them to believe it was okay for them to operate.
This is the defence i plan on using if they ever come after me for selling krono
 
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So what you are saying is you are Yantis, the item/plat/account selling business really dried up, and you have had to really scum it up by scalping Krono, eh?
Not sure who Yantis is, but when i play eq i need copius amounts of kfc, kebab, indian and chinese to fuel my megamind. This is all funded by the tears of dripping kronos from retired pensioners playing eq.
 
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