Desktop Computers

Arica-Jade said:

Thank you, wilkxus. I will do a fresh install on the crucial m4 for os and other apps like web browsers and such. Will put 3ds max and maya on the new ssd with CC.

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Just a suggestion... I am not sure if its worth reinstalling OS on new SSD to shave off.... perhaps (random guess) half a second off boot?
You can just plop in the Samsung EVO as a fast data drive and put your paging file on there. Takes no work this way.
If you want to reinstall some apps (from the existing Cruicial Windows install) and their work directories onto the new Samsung drive.....well thats just a quick and easy application reconfigure. No real need or benefit from a complete reinstall.

mkopec said:

Whats Zen?

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Zen is looking to be the Ticket to PC customers to upgrade their old computers at a good price in the coming year!
IF Zen turns out half decent it might finally put some downward pressure on prices of existing CPU stocks. Prices have been so ridiculously stable my 8 core system with 32 gb of ram would cost me more today than when I got it on a good deal 4 years ago.

New cheap PCIe ssds, ddr4 ram with new Intel or AMD cpu are starting to look enticing for me in 2017/18.

After looking at initial Intel reviews, appears Intel is trying hard to make things easier for AMD by releasing stuff with virtually nonexistant added value over previous two gens. Perhaps Intel are angling for a good deal with AMD in terms of AMDs graphics IP they would like to use =)

Jysin said:

Intel has had more than a decade of monopoly on performance. Monopolies tend to keep innovation at a minimum. We need AMD competing again. Back when we had AMD's FX lineup of the mid-2000s toppling Intel's performance crown. Shots were bring fired by both companies driving innovation and performance boundaries. We, the customer, were the winners.

Growing more and more processor cores is great and all, but we need to see raw processor speed (GHz) increases. We have sat around the 3-4 GHz mark for an eternity now. I know all of the power / heat / dissipation obstacles that stand in the way of that on current tech, but this is what needs the greatest change.

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The Ghz race days are over for good on silicon. Only architecture and minor microarchitecture improvments and new RAM technologies are on the horizon.
Those architectual gains are and will continue to be hampered by lagging development in the software ecosystem.
Microarchitectural gains in IPC, by squeezing more instruction level parallelism of sequential code streams has hitting a wall too. Recent releases of Intel CPUs kinda show that writing on the wall. I really doubt Intel is holding back any significant ILP microarchitecture improvments.

The gains that remain are higly application specific and of limited general interest. Significant development is needed at the software and compiler and tooling level to let some limited software take advantage of any new architecural improvments. For special cases of embarassingly parallel applications things might improve, but overall improvments will be much harder to come by nowdays. New types of ram technologies on the horizon might help feed cpus faster for certain bandwidth starved applications perhaps but otherwise...... threading will not get easier to code, or much faster per core.

Once AMD and ARM catch up in the IPC race things will get really boring. In the medium to long term this might prove BAD for new hardware prices.... but GOOD IMO for OS, and software and tools and compiler developers. Better compilers and tooling might help developers make better use of a more stable and attractive hardware target to optimize their applications and operating systems for. Users should start getting more software that uses the hardware already there much more efficiently.