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Lanx

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How’s this for a new build?


Aiming to play helldivers 2 on high settings at 75+ fps on 1440p. Nothing too wild.
memory has gone up in price since you posted the build
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INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

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memory has gone up in price since you posted the build
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Albeit, I am glad I waited a minute. Because if I did buy it all last month, I would've gotten a 9600x, and now I'm almost certainly going to get a 7800x3d. Likewise, I was looking at slower ram but decided now to get 6000 mhz CL30.

This is the current prospective build.


I'm going to go with whatever name-brand NVMe SSD 1 TB is cheapest at the time, and likewise whatever name-brand 2x16 CL30 6000 mhz ram is the best value at the time.
 
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Malakriss

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What the MF ass is happening? When I built my PC last year, 64 RGB Corsair was $199sh? Now its 400-500 bucks? Lots of kits over 500 dollars. Did South Korea shut down? Insanity,
Datacenters buying up all the RAM at the commercial level inflates the price. AI is still linear gains since no revolution happened to turn the processing efficiency into a curve. So obviously the solution is to keep digging deeper and linearly increase the hardware available.
 

INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

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What the MF ass is happening? When I built my PC last year, 64 RGB Corsair was $199sh? Now its 400-500 bucks? Lots of kits over 500 dollars. Did South Korea shut down? Insanity,
I’ve seen suspicion it’s due to AI using up ram the way data mining used up gpus back in 2020. Could also be tariffs or just inflation before Black Friday “sales.” No idea though.

in sept 2024, I bought 2x16 6000 mhz cl 30 for $80 and now it’s $300. It’s wild. I’m working on a new pc build and it’s pretty much going to be all used parts due to this inflation.

I’m getting a 4070 ti and a 7800x3d for $650 total from a buddy, thankfully. So I’ll save some there at least.

does anyone have 2x16 DDR5 they’re willing to sell?
 

Noodleface

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It's a mix of multiple things really.

Biggest one is the need for ram in data centers means both the supply goes down and cost goes up for consumer ram. Also tariffs.
 

rhinohelix

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Answering some of my own questions; Thanks for the quick responses, guys:

Edit: So after reading a large number of things, I think this is more RAM bust/boom pricing and GPU speculative lemming rush than anything else. The RAM market has been doing this for *decades*, there was once an earthquake in Japan that raised prices for years. The Korean RAM overlords (Samsung/SK Hynix)got tired of making pennies, saw that Server RAM made more more (much more) money and a decrease in PC demand and announced they were redirecting product stock into server ram to feed AI boom (AI! its what plants crave!) and a GPU shortage-like frenzy began. Sure, there might have been a little tariff involvement, and maybe someone somewhere is building out a datacenter for AI but that A) is always going B) has been going on forever C) isn't going to stop. The AI/Mining "booms" have been responsible for so much of our pricing/shortage pain over the last 8-10 years.

I don't think the AI "bubble" is going to pop per se; Much like "Cloud" from 2007-2010/12 it's going to become this mundane thing that everyone uses and speculative interest dies. I was Data Center Manager for a specific company and we had tons of salespeople wafting through talking about "The Cloud" like they were trying to sell Austin to hippies (see also Virtualization, which was a local version of the same thing, and what everyone is using today more or less either through VMware-style locally or remotely through Azure/AWS/Google Cloud etc).

TLDR: These are supply side- driven increases and the public reacting to the possibility of a shortage, with providers/retailers/spot price sellers taking advantage of that perception.
 
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Lanx

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I’ve seen suspicion it’s due to AI using up ram the way data mining used up gpus back in 2020. Could also be tariffs or just inflation before Black Friday “sales.” No idea though.

in sept 2024, I bought 2x16 6000 mhz cl 30 for $80 and now it’s $300. It’s wild. I’m working on a new pc build and it’s pretty much going to be all used parts due to this inflation.

I’m getting a 4070 ti and a 7800x3d for $650 total from a buddy, thankfully. So I’ll save some there at least.

does anyone have 2x16 DDR5 they’re willing to sell?
PartWhy It’s ScrewedExpected JumpAction
DDR4 RAM (16GB+ kits)Production being phased out for HBM/DDR5; AI eating server DDR4+30–50% by Q1 2026Stock up now — cheapest it’ll ever be again.
DDR5 RAM (32GB+ 6000MT/s)AI HBM spillover + low consumer yield+50–100% already; +20% more Q4Buy now or wait 18 months for stabilization.
High-Capacity NVMe SSDs (2TB–8TB)QLC NAND going to AI server SSDs+20–50% by mid-2026Grab 2TB+ drives now (e.g., WD Black SN850X, Samsung 990 PRO).
Mid-Range GPUs (RTX 4070/4080, RX 7800 XT)Datacenter GPUs hogging TSMC 4nm/5nm+15–30% by 2026Buy used/refurb 30/40-series or lock in new at MSRP.
Power Supplies (850W+ 80+ Gold/Platinum)AI PSUs (1600W+) taking factory lines+10–25%Get Corsair RMx, Seasonic, EVGA now.
 
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darkmiasma

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For only gaming, is there any benefit to getting a 64 over a 32? I get for productivity tasks for work, but for just pew pew pew I'm clueless.

Not really, but it was a great deal at the time - $204.99 (It wasn't much more than the 32GB back in April when I was doing my build). Just checked right now and it's crazy: $434.99

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INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

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INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS you should just buy this bundle and then sell the rest to recoup the cost - at least you'd get 32GB of DDR5 for $200:

When I go to newegg, it only shows the MOBO for $200 not the MOBO + DDR5.
 

Kajiimagi

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So happy I went with 64GB with my new build right before the prices went crazy a few months ago.
Yeah I did 32GB when I built this current gaming rig, then noticed when I process astro images it was forcing the PC into virtual RAM. I'm purring along at 64 myself. And I can justify it this time.