Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

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Jesus fuckballs.

Way to go, Jay!

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Amzin

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I thought they'd rolled back RMAH transactions once before? Regardless, obviously they have to do something about it.
 
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Charles_sl said:
It wouldn't be possible to rollback sales I think, if real dollars have actually changed hands and aren't just sitting in a pool somewhere waiting to be sent out then I think they are out of luck, but if the dollars from the sales haven't been sent yet then I don't see any reason that they can't be "rolled back," it isn't actually a rollback though, more like just cancelling the transactions that took place for a few hours today.

I don't know what it would cost Blizzard, probably something due to people working overtime and so on, but I don't think that anyone would lose money on a rollback unless they were actively abusing the bug. Also from what I can see the bug didn't involve real money sales at all, it involved cancelling gold auctions on the RMAH and receiving duplicated gold in return. So it's not like there were a ton of real money transactions going on compared to normal, most of the transactions were taking place on the GAH since the RMAH was just used to duplicate the gold, there were no sales involved with the duplication method.
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It all depends on how they account for the transactions. If the sale is instant but sits in an escrow account for a period to minimise fraudulent charges then it all depends on how they have the verbiage for the account setup.

Since all transactions technically occur with a fake currency (BlizzBucks) the shift of funds has already happened, blizzard already HAS the money. This is where it gets shaky, since the funds are (or should be) restricted for use they TECHNICALLY both do and do not own the money in their "BlizzBucks" currency. Sure their TOS will state that money there is "THEIRS" but they would be 4 kinds of fucked if they spent it all and had none to release if everyone decided to sell out and zero their BlizzBucks.

The go to answer to this whole thing is...

If it costs them more money to roll back than simply ban everyone and give a hard ass stink eye to everyone else, guess what they will do.
 
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If it costs them more money to roll back than simply ban everyone and give a hard ass stink eye to everyone else, guess what they will do.
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You said it all right there. I hope for the best since I enjoyed playing the game for a time and look forward to playing the expansion when it's released, and I also know that there are still lots of active Diablo III players who I feel bad for, I will feel especially bad for them if Blizzard doesn't roll this mess of a patch back.
 
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Charles_sl said:
You said it all right there. I hope for the best since I enjoyed playing the game for a time and look forward to playing the expansion when it's released, and I also know that there are still lots of active Diablo III players who I feel bad for, I will feel especially bad for them if Blizzard doesn't roll this mess of a patch back.
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this could turn it around for diablo 3, if they roll back!

i dont think anyone that didnt take advantage of this will be playing again anytime soon unless that happens.
 
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What is the most "lulz" worthy is that the amount of banned people calling for a rollback. Oh..gee...that isn't transparent at all, who would have thought that the guys banned are calling for a "better" solution to the problem that doesn't really impact them.

Best solution? Ban everyone and then rollback.

Epic tears.
 
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Best Solution: Burn it all to the ground, enable off-line play, and borrow some money from Kotick to keep the dev team//interns employed until expansion launch.
 
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Add a ladder reset, get rid of the RMAH, add a gold cap on the AH and make high end gear BoA. Best solutions imo. Or even better remake D2 with D3 graphics and everyone will be fucking happy.
 
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Servers are down. I actually got 4 paragon levels today. I'll be pretty upset if they roll back.. that. I'd suspect they can just roll back gold/gems or something, I don't know. But, the fact that they haven't said a word while many people are still playing would be pretty horrible CS, but i guess for bliz that isn't anything out of the ordinary. Their QA is full of a bunch of kindergarteners.
 
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It's just an assumption but I think currency transactions are as close to instantaneous as they can get it so that money is already being sent to paypal etc and I don't know how they can reverse all that either legally or in good conscience.
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Coming a bit late to this, but no, gold transactions are not instant. I just sold 50 Mil a week ago for the stunning price of $12.50 and it suffers from the same delay as an item. They could indeed negate all the sales. If I were Blizzard I would just Ban accounst that took advantage of this for starters, but I imagine rollbacks are coming.

I agree that at this point, people should be getting removed from working with Blizzard. I think this was a huge fuckup and would not surprise me in the least to find this actually was not a mistake...
 
Mahes

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Banning players will be a very tricky thing. Do you Ban the players that actually sold thier items for 2 Bil? Do you give back all the individual items that sold and then delete the gold? What about all the Gems. Honest players I am sure sold stacks of Squares and thought they got a good deal. What about the players who actually saved up the 2 Bil to finally purchase the Mempo they have been wanting only to have bought this during the major fuck up? Return the item then delete his 2 Billion? I would guess that if farmers got involved, they spread the funds throughout many many many accounts.

Rolling back the servers after banning the obvious dupers is about the only solution that does not involve a complete reset of the game.
 
Mahes

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Had limited effect? Wow, I guess I should not be surprised given that there were still duped items for sale on the AH from the last great Duping. I am sure they caught the trillionaires, but what of those who did this twice, got 10 Billion, then purchased items and then passed the items bought off to other accounts for holding? Hell Just pass off 2 billion gold to a bunch of empty accounts. There is no way that this was handled that quickly..

Oh and gold sites have gold at $15.00 for 1 Billion right now haha.
 
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Played for about 10 minutes last night and trade chat was exploding about radiant gems going up to above 100 million gold when theyre usually like 25, so that's horseshit.
 
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