DOTA 2

Well that does happen on occasion, though I would imagine most people are good with all heroes except the harder ones like Brew, Invoker, Meepo, Chen, etc. Plus the picks aren't always perfect, but they are not going to be any worse than playing an AP game. I've never had a game where there were 4 carries, but there were games without a lot of synergy in the picks. Better than BRs all day or the 5 carry game.

I think the plushies sell out... feeling generous enough to pick one up for me? Will pay for shipping of course

Just take a shower and wear deodorant and you should be good.

Yeah, you'll be slaying bitches left and right!

Sulrn_sl said:

Disagree. Sans true beginners, the best way to learn is # games played and hero variety. AR/RD enforce that. That's how I learned All-Stars and pub stomped.

Although I agree that SD is bullshit without swaps / not being able to see teammates pool, a la HoN (see, it can do something better besides the surrender option).

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I think you mistake what I mentioned, and I'm not sure your point, no one in the world is equally proficient at all heroes. If the skill gap in a stack is wide enough, if you don't pick AP, half the games you will lose based on hero pool. You need either heroes that the best players can do work on - which are different for everyone - and those heroes that the rest of the stack can play as well as possible. Giving someone a new or rarely played hero/roll in a game outside their skill bracket in a stack is the surest way to have them not learn anything because they will get shit on unless the other team has a similar positioned player and they somehow go head to head. I've probably group queued with the largest majority of total players in the rerolled channel. My bracket is high enough that I can see close to the extremes of how the matchmaking system tries to make "even" games. I've done plenty of duo/trio/5man stacks - some top heavy in skill, some bottom heavy. There are more SD/RD/CD/AR games that are nearly unwinnable because the lower skill players will get mechanically dominated by the higher skill players they are facing when they are on an uncomfortable hero and so is the opponent. Given all the variables of playing in a varied skill stack its hard to learn when you get shit on 2 minutes into the game or 30 minutes into the game due to the lack of CS. If your stack is all relatively close in skill - whatever mode you want works.

I take the opposite approach in regards to learning, I believe that focusing on a small pool of heroes at a time gives more opportunity to increase game knowledge because you can start to reduce variables that lead to game failure. Its important to know if a mistake is related to the map itself (positioning, manipulation, (tp), communication) or to a lack of knowledge about what the opposing hero(s) is capable off given their current game state (level/items). Or a combination of even more shit. Playing a hero is not necessarily the same as being able play against it as each hero v hero matchup is distinct and different. I definitely have less than 5 games played on probably 20 different heroes, but if I end up playing against or as one of those heroes I'm competent due to my general game knowledge and playing against players who used the hero well that I just attempt to emulate a that. I think going through the process of mastering the last hit animations of a small set of heroes also just sets up faster improvement as the process of mastering any animation is the same regardless of hero.

All that said, there is more than one way to get good at dota and the process should be fun to the individual.

New hero models with the patch

http://i.imgur.com/i6nIlpt.jpg

Veno looks like vipers retarded child and gyro lost his oven mitts

Nova added to the list of dota hermaphrodites, right up there with Slardar.

does anyone want this piece of shit Pyrion Flax announcer and will you give me something good for it? I really want a fucking owl mirana mount.

Veno reminds me of predator

Pudge got pussified, no blood

Speaking of Slardar, where the fuck is his remake, he looks like shit

So pudge comes with overalls now?
What are they doing to the overalls cosmetic item, is it gonna worth a bunch?

Dandain, getting stomped is a great way to learn hero builds for what works and what doesn't. Get shit on two minutes in - maybe I should change my first skill select or rework my positioning or offense level. Basic mechanics, sure that's what I meant by sans truely new players and I agree, but it still offers a glimpse at where you should eventually be. Maybe I don't care about winning as much, but forcing someone out of their comfort zone benefits each skill level unless you're at the point you're refining item builds and lane strats.

But yeah, AP may give your stack a better chance at winning. Don't think it's necessarily the best way to stack. Especially if you're talking about trying to teach lower bracket players. You're right that we take different approaches to learning and teaching.

Disagree completely, I learn nothing at all from getting stomped... Close games with even skill on the people playing each hero in the lane is where I improve the most.

The problem I run into is, i've learned a few heroes in each role that I'm competent at, and my MMR adjusts to the level where i should be with THOSE heroes. As soon as I play anything other than QoP/SS mid, I get destroyed.

If i'm offlane and not BH , Weaver, or Windrunner, I get destroyed. If i'm jungle and not NP, I get destroyed.

It makes it very hard to learn a brand new hero once your MMR is adjusted up to where your "good" heroes are. I tried to learn Invoker the past few weeks and holy shit... Feeling like maybe I should just smurf it instead. Also trying to learn heroes i'm not good at while playing with Rethan is a death sentence for both of us. Haha.

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and no pudge doesn't come with overalls, he comes with a bloody apron and he's fucked up for a bunch of cosmetics. He just looks like an American now rather than sewn together flesh beast.

Managed to find the MLG schedule for anyone interested -http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/com...dcast-schedule

Watching russian stream is great, get your shit together MLG, there's a reason most events use twitch

I can watch games ingame for free ?