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Maybe I need to go back and re-read but starting in like book 4 it's a prevalent plot point and something that is talked about extensively. There's also a major plotline in the most recent book where many of the biggest players in the book's universe believed that the AI had actually gone full rogue and was about to kill them all by blowing up an entire system. My memory is a little hazy on this because I read the entire series in like 3 weeks, which often leads to things blending together, but don't the books also make it a point of saying this always happens its just happening sooner and to a more extreme extent with this AI?
 
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Hatorade said:
Right but my question is no one in the book even blinks at the clear rabid degradation. Carl and others always comments on the fucked up or too long descriptions so for no one to mention the fluctuations is weird. Leads me to believe it is an audio book thing.
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Hm, yeah I remember it being a pretty big talking point about the AI in general, both in terms of the descriptions and the mannerisms/voice. I remember there being one particular diatribe the AI went on in either the last or second to last book that was soooo long the crawlers were aghast. Part of the challenge for the crawlers is the AI is always listening and they are adverse to openly discussing it.
 
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I am terrible at explaining my point, I understand what yall are saying and I understand the whole plot of the AI up to this point. Was just a jarring moment in the audio books and felt really out of place when no one said WTF was that? Going to grab a physical copy of the book myself and see if the text is weird as well. Like does it show the AI using 4 different voices in one sentence?
 
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Khane said:
Maybe I need to go back and re-read but starting in like book 4 it's a prevalent plot point and something that is talked about extensively. There's also a major plotline in the most recent book where many of the biggest players in the book's universe believed that the AI had actually gone full rogue and was about to kill them all by blowing up an entire system. My memory is a little hazy on this because I read the entire series in like 3 weeks, which often leads to things blending together, but don't the books also make it a point of saying this always happens its just happening sooner and to a more extreme extent with this AI?
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Yes to everything you said. I’m in book 4 this reread and that’s when it starts being brought up, and states it always happens but usually starts happening later.
 
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Hatorade said:
I am terrible at explaining my point, I understand what yall are saying and I understand the whole plot of the AI up to this point. Was just a jarring moment in the audio books and felt really out of place when no one said WTF was that? Going to grab a physical copy of the book myself and see if the text is weird as well. Like does it show the AI using 4 different voices in one sentence?
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I recall this being extrapolated this way at several points yes.
 
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I am terrible at explaining my point, I understand what yall are saying and I understand the whole plot of the AI up to this point. Was just a jarring moment in the audio books and felt really out of place when no one said WTF was that? Going to grab a physical copy of the book myself and see if the text is weird as well. Like does it show the AI using 4 different voices in one sentence?
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Yeah I get what you're saying. I don't remember specifics about it. I just remember
the AI sounding crazy AF while it was speaking crazy AF things and everyone remarking on the AI being crazy AF
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Related, I enjoy it when authors write how a character sounds immediately before their first words, especially when they are very inhuman and it sounds like a challenge to the narrator: "The entity opened its ten maws and spoke a command that sounded like 18 woodchippers chewing marbles while being crushed by the mother of all hydraulic presses. Good luck spitting that out, Travis Baldree."
 
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I realize I'm late to the game but I just got to the end of book 2 when
Carl is running around naked and the cat is laughing at him with the show host
. I was laughing so hard my wife thought something was wrong with me. Good stuff.
 
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Yeah I get what you're saying. I don't remember specifics about it. I just remember
the AI sounding crazy AF while it was speaking crazy AF things and everyone remarking on the AI being crazy AF
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Related, I enjoy it when authors write how a character sounds immediately before their first words, especially when they are very inhuman and it sounds like a challenge to the narrator: "The entity opened its ten maws and spoke a command that sounded like 18 woodchippers chewing marbles while being crushed by the mother of all hydraulic presses. Good luck spitting that out, Travis Baldree."
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Craig Alanson does this to RC Bray in Expeditionary Force stuff, more and more in the later books. Gets a pretty good chuckle out of me most of the time, where the stuff is very clearly just there to fuck with RC Bray.
 
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Regarding the AI comments above

i just finished the audiobook this week on my 12 hour drive. Carl definitely directly comments on the AI voice / breaking down during one of those episodes. There isn’t much expounding bc it shifts right back to the warlord meeting or whatever else was going on, but it is there. Like 1 internal dialogue sentence.
 
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Tuco said:
Related, I enjoy it when authors write how a character sounds immediately before their first words, especially when they are very inhuman and it sounds like a challenge to the narrator: "The entity opened its ten maws and spoke a command that sounded like 18 woodchippers chewing marbles while being crushed by the mother of all hydraulic presses. Good luck spitting that out, Travis Baldree."
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If I was a narrator, I would read that characters lines like slowpoke rodriguez. Speedy Gonzales's cousin.
 
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Hatorade said:
No way, this was clearly on purpose.
Chapter 56 00:00 - voice fluctuations begin
Chapter 56 7:56
Chapter 59 8:48
Chapter 61 3:00
Chapter 61 6:03
Chapter 63 00:00
Chapter 64 4:13
Chapter 67 7:54
Chapter 68 7:42
Chapter 68 30:08
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I can't go back and read what was going on at all those points other than the first one, and for that I will point out that there is no indication the players are hearing that. Sort of like when a chapter opens with time till level collapse. They don't need that, I think it's in their headsup display. That status dump is for us.

Other than that, those chapters were dense. There might have been no comments because it was already known the AI was losing it and they had more important things. Also, since it's not specifically said in the book, it could have just been Jeff's interpretation.
 
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Hatorade said:
I am terrible at explaining my point, I understand what yall are saying and I understand the whole plot of the AI up to this point. Was just a jarring moment in the audio books and felt really out of place when no one said WTF was that? Going to grab a physical copy of the book myself and see if the text is weird as well. Like does it show the AI using 4 different voices in one sentence?
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Jeff is taking liberties with his voicing.

One other thing I noticed and had to reconcile with the books is how his voice of Katya evolves. The first time they meet, he’s voicing her with an extreme lisp, because she is described as having fucked up features due to her inexperience with being a doppelgänger. This improves over the course of the book as her skill improves, until she has a normal sounding voice.

Nothing specifically about her voice is mentioned in the writings of the book. This is just Jeff taking liberties, extrapolating from her physical description.
 
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Seananigans said:
Jeff is taking liberties with his voicing.

One other thing I noticed and had to reconcile with the books is how his voice of Katya evolves. The first time they meet, he’s voicing her with an extreme lisp, because she is described as having fucked up features due to her inexperience with being a doppelgänger. This improves over the course of the book as her skill improves, until she has a normal sounding voice.

Nothing specifically about her voice is mentioned in the writings of the book. This is just Jeff taking liberties, extrapolating from her physical description.
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I'm listening to the chrysalis series he narrates and he also adds a tremendous amount of context through the narration. I wonder how much is narrator/producer driven vs the author interacting with the recording process. I guess audiobook sales surpass ebook/book sales for DCC, so it makes sense that the author would be involved.
 
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I'm listening to the chrysalis series he narrates and he also adds a tremendous amount of context through the narration. I wonder how much is narrator/producer driven vs the author interacting with the recording process. I guess audiobook sales surpass ebook/book sales for DCC, so it makes sense that the author would be involved.
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By all accounts the two talk often. Matt does some things specifically to fuck with Jeff. He has also killed off characters because he doesn't like how Jeff voices them. I heard an interview with both of them where they said Jeff asks Matt specific questions and gets his input on voices. So, the distress in the AIs voice isn't necessarily "all Jeff" even if it's not indicated clearly in the book.
 
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