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Hekotat

FoH nuclear response team
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Did you mean gald you're not the only one checking out the gonewild subreddit or something else? I assumed every healthy straight male checks that.

/derail I don't know how anyone makes money with porn these days with shit like that.
checking Reddit for basically Gonewild but coming here for conversation/jokes/pics etc. More hot attention whores there than you can shake a stick at!
 

tad10

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I'm neutral to positive on keying. I prefer it to be a solo/group activity though, reflag raid days is something I dont really want to see again. I'm sure if someone puts some effort into it they can come up with a key quest method that's better then spending your yearly vacation time in maidens eye.
This.

@Hekotat - holy shit, yes.
 

Lleauaric

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What would an organic "enrage timer" look like?

I don't think you can do an environmental one (lava filling, ect) outside of an instance.. And we know insta kill mode kinda sucks... And only leads to Zerg dps attacks in open world. ( not that there is much wrong with that).

Obviously the Dains Ring Battle would be awesome with a great AI and open world.... But what behaviors would a single target exhibit to put some limitations on fights? I dislike the idea of suddenly and for no reason getting powers they didn't have before. I kind of like the idea of a mob gaining power for each player it kills though. Maybe even like a "power vampire" where the mob gains the abilities of what it kills. Or "leveling" up in fight. (And keeping that power gain, so subsequent attempts are harder and harder).

What about simply leaving or fleeing? With a dragon or something with flight, this would be easy. Or how about if you attacked a wizard or something, you have to kill him and fend off his attacks before he completes his "evac" spell. ("50 fucking guys?!?! I'm outta here!)

Calling for adds would work too if they didn't just spawn out of nowhere, but reinforcements were actually running in... In great numbers, from an actual place (like deeper in the dungeon, ect)

There are lots of ways to work an enrage timer that aren't so clunky and hamfisted
 

Randin

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That is probably why they don't post here.

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MMORPG and Reddit is a lot more softball.
Well, in their defense, that is the PR guy posting in those threads. It's not like he's going to be discussing gameplay features with people in any event.
 

Jarnin_sl

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The Reddit threads remind me of the official SWG forums before that game went into beta. Just a bunch of folks asking for shit because they think it'd be cool, but with no clue how something they request could be implemented in a MMORPG.
 

Lleauaric

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No dev in his or her right mind should ever post here.

It's a no win situation. Read here? Yep, if they want unvarnished truth from people with a lot experience and know their shit.. But post? Fuck no
 

iannis

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*with their real name.

I can see anon dev-posting. On the other hand it's to the point with these games that the devs don't play them so why would they do that as a hobby?

I bet Smed has like 50,000+ posts over at model-airplaines.org
 

tad10

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nah bro, smed is laying it down over at literotica
Smed's last 4,000 tweets have been about the DOTA2 championship instead of the AAA title his company just announced 9 days ago. That says everything about Smed and why I lol when Ut starts raving about how the problems at SOE are with everyone but Smed.
 

iannis

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I saw a dude the put a lawnmower engine in a model airplane. A small lawnmower engine, but still. The fucking thing was gargantuan.

And you can put cameras on them and pilot them with an Ipad. It's actually pretty fucking cool. I'd be tempted to do it but I've seen grown men almost reduced to tears when they accidentally crash their model.

That shits work.
 

Big Flex

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I saw a dude the put a lawnmower engine in a model airplane. A small lawnmower engine, but still. The fucking thing was gargantuan.

And you can put cameras on them and pilot them with an Ipad. It's actually pretty fucking cool. I'd be tempted to do it but I've seen grown men almost reduced to tears when they accidentally crash their model.

That shits work.
I have a personal grudge against model planes.
 

tad10

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source please, i need to yell at someone.
Hacking questions were asked of devs at the Dev brunch. They hadn't heard of Macroquest or ShowEQ. They being Butler, McPherson and Michaels. That doesn't mean other devs in the EQN group hadn't heard of it - but the top three gave a collective "What's that?"
 

Caliane

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The enrage timer, as of now, is the best solution. If you remove an enrage timer for a boss and you have a 10 person raid team, nothing is stopping that team from 1 tank 9 healing that boss. Effectively, making everything that boss does trivial. Where is the challenge? The object of raiding is to solve a puzzle as a team.
If you want to spend 45minutes or more on one boss. what is wrong with that?
 

Bellringer_sl

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You shouldnt be able to spend 45 minutes on a boss either way. Your resource pools should not allow you to fight that long. You don't need an enrage timer, you need a game that is designed correctly.
 

Muligan

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Smed's last 4,000 tweets have been about the DOTA2 championship instead of the AAA title his company just announced 9 days ago. That says everything about Smed and why I lol when Ut starts raving about how the problems at SOE are with everyone but Smed.
Amen to that.... I'm not saying the game doesn't have a chance to be good but I wonder time to time if there were others outside of Smed and even Georgeson what would have to EQ1 and 2?
 

tad10

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You shouldnt be able to spend 45 minutes on a boss either way. Your resource pools should not allow you to fight that long. You don't need an enrage timer, you need a game that is designed correctly.
Disagree. Long fights can be very interesting - managing your resource pools to (for example) be able to heal before the tank gets hammered. Goes back to earlier discussion that combat should be more about resource management.
 

iannis

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Depends on context.

Tank and Spank Vulak in the corner for 45 minutes? I'd immediately quit the game.

45 minute slugfest where some crazy badass runs around your entire town blowing shit up while you work to mitigate the damage he does at the same time as making him stop? Could be pretty fun once or twice.
 

Bellringer_sl

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Disagree. Long fights can be very interesting - managing your resource pools to (for example) be able to heal before the tank gets hammered. Goes back to earlier discussion that combat should be more about resource management.
You are probably right. I just wanted to enforce the point that a an enrage timer needed at all, and the arguement that if there is no enrage timer that people will duo bosses is fucking retarded and they should feel bad about themselves for even thinking it. I have no problem with endurance fest fights, i have a problem with people being stupid.