Everquest 3 - 2028?
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Cukernaut
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I meant gambits for ff12 yes thanks for correcting my middle aged moment. Just like spell load outs you have behavior load outs and yeah you could scale things would be super cool.
the clear elephant in the room is mq2 existing outside of the game and the kludginess of boxing.
I think “ raids” could also be viable exp/loot paths.
I meant 12 but since you mention it Funny enough the paradigms could be pre loaded behavior load outs or spell gems.
also, you can obviously swap to control any of your characters.
Rajaah
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FF12's system really needs to be used again, it was interesting and deep. FF13's system got a couple of games already and I'm okay with that one not returning, but I also think it was underrated.
I'd be happy if FF17 used the FF12 gambit system again but it probably won't. They seem all-in on these stupid action game styles.
Grizzlebeard
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FF11 had macros for everything as well.
Had a hard time convincing a friend coming from WoW he had to map out every single action line by line including gear swaps for weaponskill macros.
Had a hard time convincing a friend coming from WoW he had to map out every single action line by line including gear swaps for weaponskill macros.
Rajaah
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To be fair, WoW gameplay in leveling PVE basically consists of hammering 1-3 number keys over and over until you win. For the entire level-up process.
I remember being desperate to make the game some kind of challenge circa WOTLK, where my Mage was tanking 2-3 mobs at once with little danger involved. So I took off a bunch of his armor and started pulling trains. Like 6-8 mobs beating me down. Used the AOE freeze and snaring freeze cone to kite them and blast them with arcane explosion. Felt more like EQ.
...then I realized I didn't need to do the kiting portion because just standing and hammering arcane explosion as fast as possible until everything died usually worked. Long as it wasn't more than 6 or so mobs I could beat them before they killed me by hammering this one button. And this was with a bunch of armor taken off.
I think that's when I just totally fell off with the game.
nevergone
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If they were smart, they'd identify the mechanics that were acceptable in the past but would be seen as tedious and boring now and revamp them.
It doesn't take a ton of credit, but it does require a thoughtful examination of why those things were present in the first place. For example, meditation to regain mana while having your vision covered by the spell book; that was an intentionally mechanic to create a "blindfold" over casters. It forced them to rely on communication from others in their group to maintain situational awareness and brought an element of tension to regain enough energy to contribute to an ongoing fight.
Originally, when Gems was introduced (the little minigame you could bring up to match spell gem icons) there was a camp of players (and devs) who thought this may be the beginning of more active gameplay elements being layered into activities that were more passive. Think about it, instead of staring at a static screen inside your spell book, you instead have to solve puzzles, craft sigils, or otherwise engage with a gameplay loop customized to your class to regain energy quickly. With good art assets, you could make it beautiful - wizards combine elements to create mana, bards play tempo/guitar hero, clerics play wordle to form holy words to increase their piety. Lots of options and the potential for a flavor for everyone - and this is the "downtime" loop.
Of course none of this will happen; the game development industry is populated by actual retards and faggots who are devoid of creativity and talent.
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Ambiturner
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Sounds tedious and awful. If they go into it with the mindset that the spellbook shit was anything other than terrible, then they've already failed
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nevergone
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Nirgon
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RobXIII
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I was just a kid when one killed me inside an inn in Commonlands. As kids do, I petitioned, but the guide told me to basically pound sand but in a respectful RP way (thin walls can't keep out huge beasts!). I'd like to think that interaction helped mold me into the resilient patient online gamer that I am today.
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Siliconemelons
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Grizzlebeard
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RobXIII
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The good ones really nailed it as the patient, Game Master types just around to make the game better. When you could kill the Priest of Discord, I found a pathing exploit that let my mage pet just burn him down. Suddenly I kept getting summoned and smacked down (PoD hit harder than most raid mobs in Vanilla ), which confused me because he can't summon. It was a friendly hidden guide, fun times.
They didn't always get it right. One of them tried to complain when 2 of us were pulling dorf guards inside Kaladim and killing them on the roof. Wasn't a pathing exploit, they were punching us in the face just fine, so that one confused me.
Another sighed but didn't do anything as our 2 iksars were murdering Felwithe guards in the middle of a GM officiated wedding (remember when GMs did that? Bring back the RP)
Grizzlebeard
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Yeah, I remember that. My dorf pally was married there to a high elf enchanter. He even let off a bunch of fireworks and then did an announcement in zone chat. I wish I could remember the guy’s name. We used to bump in to each other every six months or so.
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Siliconemelons
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Marriages where remnant from the realm and ultima but also part in of the fact that surnames had to be unique and only duplicates could be given by GMs or so I was told same as unique characters or spaces in surnames
