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If they've learned one thing from that last vid I hope its , do not put Secrets on screen.
I was watching a bunch of aLovingRobot's (Shawn) videos about M&M so I could comment on that thread and stumbled across his interview with Secrets.

I watched the whole thing and....

Jesus. Christ.

Shawn is an obvious shitlib, but you could tell that even he was struggling with listening to Secrets.
 
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Sachee

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Think back to the kid you were when you were 14, 16, 18. Now see yourself playing on the Tranny server in 2026 and ask yourself, is that kid proud of you? If not, fix the mother fucker. I bet the kid you were never saw yourself thirsting to play that childhood video game, created by beautiful cis white males, that got necrophiled by fags and trannies. Fuck you people that still play and support this gutter whore garb. My first instinct in EQ was to log on Rallos Zek and start PKing the fags and trannies of Everquest. God of war be praised, I was right all along.
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rolien

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The FAQ in discord still says True Box is enforced, unless I missed something?. You can have multiple PC's running it from your household (family, etc) if you want to do actual boxing, but not like 3 EQL windows on your pc.
True box is still boxing.

Has Everquest reached the point to where people are like "Well yes it's not boxing because I'm not able to run 52 clients of Everquest on my computer at one time, they need me to use multiple computers or virtual machines to box now".

Boxing is boxing if you're running more than 1 character you're boxing.

The Discord has turned into a joke since they got a bunch of mods. They close suggestion threads randomly and they'll silence you for bullshit.

Got silenced for stating that the server is now a boxing server since they're allowing boxing then was DMed by some rando that I'm autistic who then proceeded to try and convince me why I should change my opinions on boxing and got upset when I told him I won't change my opinion.

Everquest players really are a bunch of fucking retards.
 
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M Power

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The Discord has turned into a joke since they got a bunch of mods. They close suggestion threads randomly and they'll silence you for bullshit.

Got silenced for stating that the server is now a boxing server since they're allowing boxing then was DMed by some rando that I'm autistic who then proceeded to try and convince me why I should change my opinions on boxing and got upset when I told him I won't change my opinion.
Anyone that knows Secrets knew this was going to happen.
 
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Kebabman

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if you spend more than 5 minutes on this discord you quickly realise 90% of them wont make it past level 20 if its slower than tlp leveling speeds
 

Kirun

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True box is still boxing.

Has Everquest reached the point to where people are like "Well yes it's not boxing because I'm not able to run 52 clients of Everquest on my computer at one time, they need me to use multiple computers or virtual machines to box now".

Boxing is boxing if you're running more than 1 character you're boxing.

The Discord has turned into a joke since they got a bunch of mods. They close suggestion threads randomly and they'll silence you for bullshit.

Got silenced for stating that the server is now a boxing server since they're allowing boxing then was DMed by some rando that I'm autistic who then proceeded to try and convince me why I should change my opinions on boxing and got upset when I told him I won't change my opinion.

Everquest players really are a bunch of fucking retards.
I think the core issue here is that the community keeps trying to treat boxing like something you can "solve" with surface-level restrictions, and True Boxing is probably the clearest example of that illogical mindset.

At a baseline, yes - boxing is boxing. Running more than one character is, by definition, boxing. But collapsing the entire conversation down to that point ignores the reality that not all boxing has the same impact. A guy casually running a second character to fill a role gap is not functionally the same as someone orchestrating a full group or raid. The problem is that True Boxing doesn't meaningfully distinguish between those cases and it just throws a blanket restriction over everything and calls it a day. True Boxing was pushed and defended by the worst parts of the community as this necessary measure to "protect" the game from botters and large-scale boxers. But in practice, it's a pretty misguided attempt at control. It doesn't actually target botting behavior, and it doesn't stop serious boxers. It just assumes that adding friction and forcing people onto multiple machines will somehow "solve" the problem. It doesn't.

The players running large box setups were never dependent on convenience in the first place. They're the most invested, most motivated group in the ecosystem. So what do they do? They adapt. Multiple PCs, virtualization, hardware solutions, etc. It's nothing more than a speed bump. The very people True Boxing is supposed to stop are the ones best equipped to ignore it.

Meanwhile, the people it does hit are the low-impact players. The guy who might casually duo, the player filling in gaps during off-hours, the person who isn't interested in building a multi-machine setup just to stay viable. So you end up with this completely backwards outcome where the "accessible" boxing disappears, while the more entrenched, optimized boxing remains. And yet the community keeps clinging to True Boxing like it's preserving some ideal state of the game. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the larger box crews were a large part of the "voices" trying to keep it intact, so that competition stays low.

It's something that is just so hard to take seriously because it's the furthest thing from a solution, it's just a "feel-good" rule - like the TSA or any of the myriad of life's "feel-good" illusions. It gives the impression that something is being done, that the server is being "protected," but the actual player behavior doesn't meaningfully change. If anything, it just concentrates boxing into the hands of the players most willing to push it to the limit.
 

Kithani

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I was watching a bunch of aLovingRobot's (Shawn) videos about M&M so I could comment on that thread and stumbled across his interview with Secrets.

I watched the whole thing and....

Jesus. Christ.

Shawn is an obvious shitlib, but you could tell that even he was struggling with listening to Secrets.
Link?
 

Old Man Potter

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True box is still boxing.

Has Everquest reached the point to where people are like "Well yes it's not boxing because I'm not able to run 52 clients of Everquest on my computer at one time, they need me to use multiple computers or virtual machines to box now".

Boxing is boxing if you're running more than 1 character you're boxing.

The Discord has turned into a joke since they got a bunch of mods. They close suggestion threads randomly and they'll silence you for bullshit.

Got silenced for stating that the server is now a boxing server since they're allowing boxing then was DMed by some rando that I'm autistic who then proceeded to try and convince me why I should change my opinions on boxing and got upset when I told him I won't change my opinion.

Everquest players really are a bunch of fucking retards.
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I think this might explain the problem. EQ Legends is advertising on BlueSky for Discord moderators. BlueSky is full of thumb sucking woketards and alphabet people who are wannabe tyrants. This is not a good sign. :mad:
 
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Mrniceguy

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I think the core issue here is that the community keeps trying to treat boxing like something you can "solve" with surface-level restrictions, and True Boxing is probably the clearest example of that illogical mindset.

This is like saying Stop signs don't prevent people from driving through them so we shouldn't put Stop signs up.

Nah, you just need to punish people that run the Stop signs.
 

Kirun

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This is like saying Stop signs don't prevent people from driving through them so we shouldn't put Stop signs up.

Nah, you just need to punish people that run the Stop signs.
If anything, a more accurate analogy would be that True Boxing is a sign that only slows down the drivers who were already following traffic laws, while the ones you're worried about just take a different route and keep speeding anyway. That's essentially what True Boxing does. It creates the appearance of control without actually addressing the behavior it's supposed to limit.

Plus, this all relies on enforcement anyhow, and we both know how DBG is at that...
 

Siliconemelons

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This game will only succeed if....

Vanessa is playing the cover of the EQ theme on his guitar for the intro... secrets make it happen, hire him increase your DEI score!
 
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rolien

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I think this might explain the problem. EQ Legends is advertising on BlueSky for Discord moderators. BlueSky is full of thumb sucking woketards and alphabet people who are wannabe tyrants. This is not a good sign. :mad:
Oh sweet lord it's worse than I knew.

Fuck this shit I'm out if they're going blue sky bullshit the game is totally fucked.

Fucking Daybreak really is trying to punish THJ players.
 
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Mrniceguy

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If anything, a more accurate analogy would be that True Boxing is a sign that only slows down the drivers who were already following traffic laws, while the ones you're worried about just take a different route and keep speeding anyway. That's essentially what True Boxing does. It creates the appearance of control without actually addressing the behavior it's supposed to limit.

Yeah, but if they actually banned people for violating truebox would that still be the case?

The problem isn't truebox it's

1) They don't clearly communicate what Truebox exactly is.
2) They don't do anything meaningful to enforce it.

Plus, this all relies on enforcement anyhow, and we both know how DBG is at that...

100% agree.
 

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So he's an addy'd up tranny, who thinks he knows everything, cant handle social situations, but got fired from his last job for spending all day at work talking shit on discord instead of working, did I miss any major points? And the future of everquest is in this cucks hands?
 
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